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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 07:58 AM
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"John McCain's campaign has already tacitly accepted the "landslide" scenario"
Pundits with conservative sympathies are starting to talk about the "L" word as they contemplate the utter collapse of Republican credibility and a probable scenario where Obama as President is backed by democratic majorities - even fillibuster-proof ones - in both Senate and House.

John McCain's campaign has already tacitly accepted the "landslide" scenario. It's latest tactic is to try to offer a McCain presidency to independents as a balance to Pelosi, something they wouldn't even contemplate if they thought that Republicans weren't going to take a major beating or if McCain had a chance of taking the White House under their own power.

They wouldn't be in such dire straits if the Bush Years hadn't been such a massive disaster in all ways both foreign and domestic, if McCain wasn't seen as just more of the same or if the GOP in general was seen as sensitive to the wants of voters rather than corporate giants and their lobbyists. It's their own damn fault and one of those generational adjustments that takes place whenever a polical party gets too used to idea of power (the permanent Republican majority), too incestuous with the big-money players (K Street Project revolving doors) or too hubristic about its ability to control the world around it (the neocon fantasy of "the end of history" and American hegemony). At some point in the future, it'll be the Democratic Party's turn again, although whether the GOP in its current form will still be around to witness that fall is beginning to be questioned too.

But hardline Republicans' reactions to their impending years in the wilderness are those of sullen and sore losers. They're turning to hate speech, false equivalences, myth-building to cover their own acts and myth-building to excuse their loss.

They're even setting up what Mark Steyn is already calling a "Cold Civil War". As my colleague Ron Beasley writes at Newshoggers:

the bile that will be heaped upon Obama after the election will make even the insanity of the Clinton years look tame in comparison ... the framing of it all being the fault of an illegitimate usurper who befriends terrorists and waves the white flag of surrender to America's enemies will likely find some powerful resonance. Scape-goating our problems always does, which is why we're entering such dangerous times, and it wouldn't surprise me to see Palin carrying the banner for all that insanity as she is now.

The GOP base loves her for it, and are already lining up to defend Palin from the consequences of her abusing power in Alaska, just as she'll be able to count on blaming McCain's "too honorable" campaign as the reason they lost. Get used to her. It's a safe bet you're looking at the future of the Republican Party.

Which is, by the by, why the Republican Party is going to become a whole lot smaller and perhaps even slip into the minor leagues, to be replaced by some new, saner center-right coalition with a new party name.

Still, I worry. The percentage of ultra-right diehards is likely to be enough to kick a few who are crazy enough to try make their long-promised insurrection or armed coup a possibility. Minority nutcases and to be labelled correctly as terrorists - but dangerous nonetheless

http://www.crooksandliars.com/node/23348
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:06 AM
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1. Yesterday Tucker Bounds said:
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 08:07 AM by niceypoo
"We will put up a good showing on election day."

Previously he has stated that they will win. McCain's campaign feels that a loss is inevitable, apparently.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 02:02 PM
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8. If Palin is the water carrier, we will be in power for centuries.
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elzenmahn Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 11:43 PM
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11. Don't take her lightly...
...just take a look at Ronald Reagan. Former governor, ex b movie actor, Borax and GE salesman, friends in oily places. Comfortable in front of a camera, charismatic, and can probably sell you the shirt of your back. We know what happened since.

Now take Sarah Palin. Current governor, former mayor, ex sportscaster. Friends in oily places. Comfortable in front of a camera, charismatic, and might be able to sell you the shirt of your back...

...if you're not careful.

We've seen the movie before, this spaghetti-and-moosemeatball western tale.

I, frankly, want a refund.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:08 AM
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2. Just now on CSPAN
Morenci! "Going to now give us 4 years of wholly democratic government."
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:11 AM
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3. and this: The Note: McCain Seeks New New Start
The Note: McCain Seeks New New Start
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ABC News' Rick Klein reports in Monday's Note:

These next three weeks -- and, perhaps, the next three decades or so of legacies -- comes down to a simple question: What does Johnny want?

Yes, he wants to be president. But underneath that question, things get trickier.

Does he want to run against Barack Obama or Barack Hussein Obama? (Is that choice still his?)

Will the campaign tone be set by John McCain himself, or McCain's party, some of McCain's strongest supporters, or McCain's running mate? (Which of those dogs pack the meanest bite?)

Does he put forward a new, tax-cutting economic proposal to train his focus on the only dominant issue that's out there? (Answer Monday morning: No -- he'd still rather turn the page.)

more:http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/the-note-mcca-3.html


The McCain camp is confused and dazed, no direction to go but down IMO.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:17 AM
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4. Obama "rope-a-dope"d them--link to DU post on great Andrew Sullivan article
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:35 AM
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5. Three weeks before the Iowa Caucuses in 2000
Howard Dean was acknowledged by everyone to be "unbeatable."

And in NH, he led Kerry 32-17.

Three weeks later, he had lost Iowa and Kerry was leading him 34-22 in NH.

In politics, a week is an eternity.

Just sayin' -- we can't let up one tiny little bit.
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dhpgetsit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:21 AM
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6. I absolutely agree.
This is no time to start feeling comfortable.

You might live in a state that Obama is going to win. But you can still help the Obama campaign financially. We also need a Congress that will help Obama, so do what you can to help Franken and Merkley and the other congressmen who are trying to take seats away from the Cons.

Keep it rolling!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:50 AM
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7. There is no better time than on the eve of this landslide to harken back to
the great Molly Ivins and her prescient article on the day of the last stolen Presidential election

A Rotting, Dead Chicken

http://www.creators.com/opinion/molly-ivins/molly-ivins-november-4.html
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 03:23 PM
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9. They're VERY sore losers
Remember how they went after Clinton?

They're even sorer winners.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:45 PM
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10. if mcsleazycrook cuts it to 5 they can steal it electroncally
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