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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 05:08 AM
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Why is the Chabad Center Torture Not Being Reported?
On Monday, Dec. 1, the UK Telegraph reported statements by doctors who examined the bodies of those killed in the Mumbai massacre. "Many of the bodies showed signs of torture," they said, one going on to explain that "of all the bodies, the Israeli victims bore the maximum torture marks. It was clear that they were killed on the 26th itself. It was obvious that they were tied up and tortured before they were killed. It was so bad that I do not want to go over the details even in my head again."

Horrifying. And mystifying -- because this news item, carried around the world, has been utterly absent from the mainstream U.S. media. Other than The Huffington Post and The Drudge Report (unusual bedfellows indeed), you cannot find this report anywhere on CNN, CBS, ABC, FOX, The New York Times, LA Times, Washington Post -- nowhere.

Why? I have no idea. Is this not news? If not well-enough substantiated to be reported as news, is it not worth investigating? We have been privy to every other detail of the Mumbai atrocity, to all sorts of unsubstantiated eyewitness accounts. Why would a report by government doctors be ignored?

But the story gets curiouser. Since that time, the Telegraph's online article has been edited and cut down, and though it still mentions the "Israeli" bodies showing the most signs of torture, it no longer contains the doctor's frightening quote about not wanting to go over the details in his head.

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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 05:17 AM
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1. Actually, there have been reports on both CNN and other MSM outlets.
It may not be reported on more because of the mixed and contradictory reports on the subject

For example:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1227702405844&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

but then you have this:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128629

So, who do you believe, the doctor who claims to examined the victims and the report from the Jerusalem Post or another doctor interviewed by the Israel National News?

I have no idea who to believe. But the torture story did make the MSM.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 05:30 AM
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2. Re-read the article.
While he did mention CNN, (I never saw anything of the sort), he was talking about the US media. It stands to reason that Israeli MSM would have these reports, however, I think he was questioning why such reports were not seen in American MSM outlets. You do, however, make a good point about the contradictory reports....or are they? The JPost article says:

"On the Jewish bodies, there were more injuries in numbers, they were firearms injuries,""

Could that not be evidence of torture? Also, the other doctor was not interviewed by INN, it was republished from another, Indian, site.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 05:55 AM
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3. As for the CNN, that is something I observed directly
not on broadcast, but only on their website. I don't watch CNN or, for that matter, any news on TV except Keith and Rachael.

But I did see a report about the possibility of torture of the victims, especially of the rabbi and his wife, on the CNN website.

I have not read of any torture of other victims, except for the story tonight (again, on CNN.com) that one gunman shot a kid's parents, and when the kid started screaming, shot him... he kept screaming so the gunman shot him again to "keep him quiet". That may not be "torture" in the traditional sense of the word, but is certainly inhuman.

Since the bodies of the victims were scooped up and buried quickly in Israel, further examination for signs of torture may not have been done (I understand that this was a religious requirement). Anyway, there should have been forensic photos.

Let me add, I'm not a forensic scientist, but I understand that pre-mortum and post-mortum injuries can easily be hard to discriminate unless done by a highly qualified "CSI" type. Not to mention that the crime scene has to be examined as well.

But really, does this matter that much? These animals were apparently fed a diet of jihadi propaganda, promises for their afterlife and more promises for their earthly families, were trained in the art of killing indiscriminately, given drugs, grenades, AK-47s and all the ammunition they could use, and then turned loose on a population of innocent bystanders. If they tortured their victims before killing them, what then?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:12 AM
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4. Mumbai doctor finds no signs of torture on Chabad House bodies
A hospital doctor at Mumbai's JJ Hospital, which received the bodies of six Jewish and Israeli hostages from the Chabad House terrorist siege, has cast doubt on a report claiming that signs of torture were apparent on the bodies of the victims.

Dr. Gajanan Chawan, who saw the bodies, told The Jerusalem Post on Tuesday he did not believe the wounds he observed suggested the hostages had been tortured prior to their deaths.

Asked if he saw any evidence of torture on the bodies, Chawan replied, "No, I don't think so." He added that the majority of the wounds he could identify had been caused by firearms.

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On November 30, an article was posted on the Rediff Indian news portal which cited an unnamed doctor from an unspecified hospital as claiming that torture marks were evident on the hostages' bodies.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1227702405844&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-08 03:57 PM
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5. Report: Mumbai terrorists badly tortured Chabad House victims
The terrorists who carried out last month's deadly attacks in Mumbai tortured their victims at the city's Chabad House before killing them, India's Economic Times newspaper has reported.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050088.html
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