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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 02:35 AM
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`Insensitive' govt continues to ignore Jewish deaths in Mumbai
Source: The Times of India

NEW DELHI: Two-year-old Moshe Holtzberg tugs at your heartstrings, crying for his mother who was brutally killed by Pakistani terrorists at
Nariman House in Mumbai during the three-day terror attacks. In many ways, Moshe is the face of the trauma that wracked the city.

Moshe's Israeli parents, Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg, 29, and his pregnant wife, Rivkah, 28, were killed along with other hostages. His story of being whisked away from his dead parents, soaked in blood, by his nanny has brought tears to most hardened hearts all over the world.

The Indian government, however, has remained completely immune to all this. In a display of crass insensitivity as well as an enduring sign that the government continues to pander to the politics of the Muslim-Jew divide, minister of state for external affairs E Ahamed did not mention the Nariman House attack in his statement to the UN Security Council last week. And this from an India which officially maintains that terror has no religion and all victims are equal.

Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Insensitive_govt_continues_to_ignore_Jewish_deaths_in_Mumbai/articleshow/3842284.cms
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 02:50 AM
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1. Should they instead say that Jewish deaths are special deaths?
That it matters more if Jews are killed? I, personally, would not enjoy being a luxury treat for an assassin.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 02:52 AM
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2. No, but how about not omitting any mention of the Chabad attack?
From the article:

In his speech to the UNSC asking for the world to ban the Jamaat-ud-Dawa, Ahamed referred to "pre-selected targets which included a cafe popular with Indian and foreign tourists and two major hotels". There was no mention of the Jewish Chabad Lubavitch centre, which was specifically chosen by the terrorists to attack Jews.

<end of excerpt>

Why not include the Chabad attack among the targets mentioned?
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 03:13 AM
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3. "pre-selected targets which included..." doesn't mean "these are all the targets" /nt
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Lost River Ledger Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 05:22 AM
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5. at the very least....
when writing in such generalities that encompassed the tragedy, they could have said " a religious organization" thus making the retelling bland, but complete......as far as contrastive rhetoric goes, if this is not poor form, its is certainly open to be interpreted as prejudice.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 07:51 AM
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8. they could have said a lot of things
could they have put it better?
sure
does this smack of anti-semitism?
only if that's what you're trying to find

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 05:12 AM
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 08:40 AM
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9. That is kinda what I was wondering. Murdered is murdered, isn't it? Regardless of nationality.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:55 AM
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11. So why leave it out?
Why was there no mention of that facet of the attack in his remarks to the UN?
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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 09:11 AM
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10. That's my rabbi's childhood friend you just shat on.
Nice to see that Jewish blood is meaningless to you.

My rabbi here in Seoul has been torn up since he learned his friend was killed.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 05:58 AM
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6. This comes as no surprise.
According to some, they were in on it (the Chabad House) because this was a "false flag" by Mossad to pit India (an Israeli ally) against Pakistan. Oh, and those that "believe" this conspiracy aren't the "right"-wingers.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 07:12 AM
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7. That is such a bizarre theory
I see and read those things and to be honest it gives me headaches. I mean, the lack of logic and the reeking of paranoia is just astounding.

I'm amazed that these people can even sleep with the lights off.

I guess it is true, when you get far enough to the right and the left of the political spectrum they can see each other in the mirror.
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Lost River Ledger Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:15 AM
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13. Agreed......
Both the far left and the far right have blinders on when it comes to Israel/Jews. Myopic at best, they choose to believe what bolsters their agendas with little regard for the facts on the ground.

Consider:

"Whenever an American or a Filipino fell at Bataan or
Corregidor or at any other of the now historic spots where
MacArthur's men put up their remarkable fight, their survivors
could have said with truth: 'The real reason that boy went to
his death, was because Hitler's anti-semitic movement succeeded
in Germany.'" (The American Hebrew, July 24, 1942).
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 01:41 PM
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12. India has never played the politics of muslim/jew divide.
India has remained secular and has been a sanctuary for jews since the 7th century ACE.

With 190 million muslim citizens, India has maintained very good relations with Israel. Israel is one of the top arms suppliers to India. Indian RAW and Israeli Mossad have very close ties and share intelligence all the time.

India's goal in the UN is not religious but political. This is why a muslim minister was probably purposely selected to give this speech to get religion out of Pakistan and Kashmiri organizations' arguments. India's goals are to neutralize Pakistani military and ISI by identifying them as terrorist organizations. Bringing religion into the argument doesn't help that cause.

Finally, all innocent victims of terrorism, whether christian, muslim, hindu, jew, buddhists or atheists are EQUAL. No one is more precious dead than any other.
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