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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 02:58 PM
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Battling Obama by ‘Going Galt’
http://washingtonindependent.com/32772/battling-obama-by-going-galt

Battling Obama by ‘Going Galt’
Conservatives Look to 'Atlas Shrugged' for Answers to Keynesian Policies
By David Weigel 3/6/09 1:15 PM


”Do you ever wonder,” wrote Dr. Helen Smith, “after dealing with all that is going on with the economy and the upcoming election, if it’s getting to be time to ‘go John Galt?’”

It is October 12, 2008 and inspired by Barack Obama’s curbside debate with Joe the Plumber — and the likelihood of his election to the presidency — Smith, a forensic psychologist in Knoxville, Tenn., was tossing the readers of her blog a serious question. It had been years since she had read “Atlas Shrugged.” “I had to refresh my memory with the Cliffs Notes,” she said on Thursday in an interview. But the themes of Ayn Rand’s 1957 novel, and the themes of the climactic 40-page speech by self-imposed social outcast “John Galt”, had stuck with her.

The themes had stuck with her readers, too. Within days, Smith had collected nearly 200 comments and a steady stream of e-mails from readers who were responding to the possibility of a Democratic victory by brainstorming ways to pull out of the economy. Four months later, Smith — a host of “Ask Dr. Helen” on the right-leaning web site PajamasTV — is collecting stories and suggestions from readers scattered across the country, all of them using the “Atlas Shrugged” analogy as a rallying cry against President Barack Obama’s economic policies.

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This view of “Atlas Shrugged” has its detractors. “Ayn Rand romanticized capitalists,” said Jerome Tuccille, author of the libertarian history “It Usually Starts With Ayn Rand,” in a Thursday interview. “She saw them as great heroes. She doesn’t deal with these corporatists like Thain who were pushing paper around and using regulations to feather their nests. Some of these bastards like Thain should be in jail. I mean, I want them carted out of their houses, doing the perp walk at 3 a.m.” Will Wilkinson, a libertarian columnist for The Week magazine, worries about the hazards of Obama’s policy, but doesn’t consider Rand’s book a good handbook for resistance. “The book is a critique of the corporatist economy,” he said on Thursday. “I don’t see why Rand lovers would defend financial executives.”

The activists who have latched onto “Atlas Shrugged” don’t spend as much time thinking about the heroic-capitalist side of the analogy. For Dr. Smith’s readers, like their counterparts writing in to libertarian blogs and protesting Obama at “tea parties, ” the novel is most useful for the concept of “going Galt.” “I do some consulting on the side and the taxation on that income is unbelievable,”wrote one reader to Michelle Malkin. “So, to heck with this. I’m ‘going Galt’ on my consulting.” “I’m considering moving to a small family farm in a foreign country,” wrote a reader to Smith, “and looking into the practical side of the issue right now. It will take a year or two of preparation, but might be feasible and even comfortable.”

Smith, who’s still mulling over ways that she can “go Galt,” sees a possibility for a moral stand. During the Iraq War, she read about a painter who’d painted less, reducing his income, in order to dodge taxes and thereby make sure he didn’t fund the war. “I’d go John Galt just to not pay for programs I don’t believe in,” said Smith. “If we’re opposed to socialistic concepts — if we know they don’t work — why should we pay to support them?”

This, for Wilkinson, is another reason he’s still on the fence — although he’s “sympathetic” to the “going Galt” concept and the Rand comeback. “If we’re being honest,” he said, “it’s a right-wing version of ‘I’m moving to Canada if Bush wins.’”
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 03:05 PM
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1. To all those wingnuts who want to leave the country because Obama won.
Bye!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 03:14 PM
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2. Wanna take up a collection to get them moving?
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Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 03:25 PM
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5. And just what country is going to accept such
A crowd of prejudiced, superstitious, under-educated meanies?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 03:30 PM
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7. Well, considering their penchant for petty tyrants and lying
dictators, let's send 'em to Putin.

See how they like that.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 04:09 PM
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9. Well, since they yearn for a country
that's a theocracy, with a big-brother government with its nose in every bedroom, a place where women walk six paces behind their husbands and remain "properly covered" and subservient at all times, a place where a holy book determines laws, where adulterers and homosexuals are publicly stoned, wellsir, their heaven on earth already exists. Yes, indoody, everything they've been bellowing for over here already exists just a mere half a world away (not far away enough from me, but it'll have to do!) and it's in place, up and going, ready to receive them with open arms!!

It's called Iran.

I say, let's pack their asses up and send them now.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 06:09 PM
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14. Or Saudi Arabia--Women Can't Even Drive there
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 03:22 PM
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3. The entire premise of their worship is false.
Rand did idealize her industrial giants and attributed to them a rigid moral code that included hard work, persistence, native genius, innovation -- and above all, honesty and integrity. Everything they did was based on what they saw as the sanctity of fair trade and their motto was, "value for value."

Rand's modern devotees ignore the differences between Rand's heroic characters and attribute their virtues to high-level business people in general today -- many of whom, as we all know by now, live by one code and for one purpose only: profit above all else.

Today's heroes of the Libertarian sheep do not care how their profit is obtained, as long as it keeps getting higher and higher, and their methods certainly do not require the ethics and stoic honesty of a Hank Reardon.

The entire argument of Libertarians today is based on the premise that business leaders are honest and that all will be well in the world if we just leave them alone and let them do what they want however they want -- and that is a false premise.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 03:26 PM
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6. Rand is probably turning over in her grave.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 03:33 PM
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8. Probably.
I just wish a couple of aggressive, hard-core Libertarians I know all too well would lose their blinders.

I'm pretty much a civil libertarian myself -- but when it comes to economics, their way is just plain destructive and absurdly unjust.

And now it's off to work for me. :hi:

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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 03:24 PM
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4. I wholeheartedly support all conservatives moving to Mexico.
Edited on Fri Mar-06-09 03:24 PM by BlueIdaho
Its the perfect place for them. No pesky government regulations, plenty of palms to grease, a totally corrupt government and, half of the capitalist industrial base is already there.

So long amigos!
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 04:38 PM
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10. cripes.
i gave on that after page 1 it was bad.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 04:39 PM
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11. Is this supposed to be some sort of threat? nt
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 05:03 PM
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12. Drama Queens. They won't go anywhere. We're not that lucky!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 06:08 PM
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13. Let Them Try! We'll Sic Tansy Gold, DU Extraordinaire, On Them
She's our secret weapon against creeping Randism.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 06:39 PM
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16. Now you've done it!
You knew I'd find this thread eventually.......


:hi:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 07:47 PM
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18. Hi There!
:hi:

Hope you get the weekend off so you can go on our Weekend Economists Cruise to Nowhere. I had so much fun on last weekend's Iceberg Hunting Cruise, I thought we might set sail again. I must be in need of escape--I haven't read anything that wasn't on line in so long, that when the reading jag hits, I may disappear for 6 months.

Thing is, after reading Kage Baker, Diana Galbadon and other great story tellers, I have a hard time reading the average TSTL novels.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 09:10 PM
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19. Actually, I'm buried in work for the week-end, but.. . . . . .
. . .. it means I'll be chained to the desk/computer most of the time, so I should have plenty of opportunity to drop in frequently on the cruise.

I don't have much time for reading other than what I come across online either, but that's going to change soon, I hope. I go bonkers if I don't feed my brain.



Tansy Gold
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 06:17 PM
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15. They need to go somewhere with a small government
I places such as Bangladesh, Cambodia and Ethiopia all spend very little. Once there, they will discover that having a big government is part of a western-style standard of living.

They will never actually go, of course. The assholes who worship the fictional Galt are themselves usually un-Galtlike.
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-06-09 07:34 PM
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17. My one exposure to Ayn Rand brought to mind Dorothy Parker.
"This is not a book to be tossed aside lightly. It should be hurled with great force."

That's exactly what I did when I reached Page 4 of For the New Intellectual - threw it across the room.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-07-09 10:13 PM
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20. They refuse to EVER do anything for another person, even if they have to starve in the process
Welcome to Fuckyouistan, founded 1980.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 12:10 AM
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21. What a bunch of fucking whiners! Whining about paying 3 cents more per
dollar over $250,000. Get a grip you free-market fundamentalists.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 01:01 AM
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22. Overwhelmingly they're just venting and posturing.
Most people will do what they can to be more well off whatever the tax rates. Ayn Rand was very silly, greatly overestimating the number of "heroic invidualists" among capitalists, and she had a very nasty contempt for most people, whom she saw as mindless drones utterly dependent on a handful of Galts, d'Anconias, Taggarts, etc. The earth could open up tomorrow and swallow the US's top 1,000 richies and we'd be none the worse off.

Let the whiners wank; their ramblings embody the mostly impotent frustrations of the survivalist types, albeit in a somewhat different way, although there is of course considerable overlap.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 03:29 PM
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23. Their timing shows they're clueless; and Rep. Ryan is a paranoid conspiracy theorist
Just at the moment when capitalism, a free market economy and next-to-no government regulation are in their biggest crisis since the Great Depression (in a few ways, an even worse one), they have somehow managed to conclude "Rand was right!" Jeez, even Greenspan, the acolyte who actually knew her, has conceded he didn't understand what was going on. The rest of them are just throwing a tantrum at a Democrat getting elected. Anyone with a brain is saying "this proves FDR was right"; it even makes it a valid question to say "was Marx right?"

And Rep. Paul Ryan has concocted a fantasy that Evil Liberal Regulators set off a financial crisis that clearly started while the Republicans were in charge of Congress and the presidency, just so everything could go wrong and they'd get elected. I guess there was some mind control stuff going on in Capitol Hill to get it to work, in his fevered brain. The embarrassing thing is, he's blurted this hallucination out loud in public, at CPAC, rather than taking it to his doctor and asking if this means he's been drinking too much.
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BirminghamExaminer Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-08-09 03:34 PM
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24. Ironic that the conservatives like Ayn Rand the athiest so much
She was a twit. Not because she was an athiest but because she so obviously worshipped men who were powerful as in financially powerful. Loser with a big fat L on her forehead and all those who follow her ridiculous novel. Never mind that the rich railroad owner couldn't build a railroad without working people. Anybody who likes Ayn Rand is a moron.
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