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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 11:10 PM
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Programmers Guild Calls for a U.S. Job Preservation Fee of $60,000 per H-1B visa
The Programmers Guild asks Congress for an emergency increase in the H-1b fee to $60,000. This fee is justified to offset the cost of creating jobs under Congress' American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA). This fee should apply to the 85,000 U.S. jobs that USCIS intends to raffle off to foreign workers on April 1, 2009 as an "H-1b Lottery."

Sacramento, CA (PRWEB) March 9, 2009 -- The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA) is a comprehensive bill of sweeping changes in the way America does business for the next four years. Section three paragraph one of page H.R.1-2 of this Act proclaims its purposes and principles as:

(1) To preserve and create jobs and promote economic recovery.

But much of the ARRA is likely to be spent creating jobs in foreign countries and creating U.S. jobs that are filled by the continuing influx of foreign labor.

Economic estimates of the cost for those creating jobs, including IT jobs, under ARRA range from $100,000 to $275,000 per job. Yet on April 1, 2009 Congress will direct USCIS to "raffle off" another 85,000 U.S. jobs in their H-1B visa lottery - without first even offering these jobs to Americans recently laid off by Microsoft, Yahoo, eBay, Google, Sun Microsystems Inc., Cisco Systems, Hewlett-Packard and Electronic Data Systems Corp.

"Every member of Congress who voted for ARRA should explain why $20 billion dollars will be spent to create jobs for the next batch of 85,000 foreign tech workers," states Kim Berry, President of the Programmers Guild. "Congress needs to explain why they will allow Microsoft to continue sponsoring H-1b workers when they have already laid off 1,000 skilled U.S. tech workers, and plan to lay off another 4,000 over the next 18 months."

Giving away scarce Americans jobs to foreign workers makes no sense to Americans like Darrell Parker, an unemployed software engineer with 25 years of experience. "The key to the economic recovery of the United States is the creation of jobs and opportunities for U.S. citizens to improve the economic stability of U.S. families and to stem the mortgage default epidemic."

Darrell believes he is qualified to fill many of the U.S. jobs currently held by H-1b workers - in fact many H-1b workers were trained by Americans before the Americans were laid off. Given the economic crisis, Darrell asks Congress for an opportunity to apply to those jobs. "The ARRA should include the recovery of the roughly 500,000 U.S. high tech jobs that are currently filled by non-immigrant guest workers. Reopening these 500,000 jobs to Americans would be more cost effective than attempting to create 500,000 new jobs under ARRA."

On February 5th Senator Charles Grassley stated, "Hiring American workers for limited available jobs should be a top priority for businesses taking taxpayer money through the TARP bailout program. With the unemployment rate at 7.6 percent, there is no need for companies to hire foreign guest workers through the H1-B program when there are plenty of qualified Americans looking for job."

"Just as TARP was a bailout of financial institutions, ARRA is a 'U.S. bailout' and thus should extend the TARP 'hire American workers' goal to all U.S. jobs," according to Kim Berry. "Over three years a $20,000 annual fee would not be an undue hardship in those rare cases where the H-1b worker possesses skills that are so specialized that no American can be found. And given the underpayment of H-1b workers, the fee would level the playing field for U.S. jobs seekers."

Level the playing field? Indeed, Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) vice president Phiroz Vandrevala conceded the wage imbalance: "Our wage per employee is 20-25 per cent less than US wages for a similar employee," Vandrevala said. "Typically, for a TCS employee with five years experience, the annual cost to the company is $60,000-70,000, while a local American employee might cost $80,000-100,000." TCS is one of the largest users of H-1b visas, and their underpayment is fully compliant with current "prevailing wage" laws.

Norm Matloff, a professor of computer science at the University of California, Davis, confirms this wage discrepancy. "Two congressionally-commissioned reports, a number of university studies, and statements by Indian government officials have shown that H-1B is typically used for cheap labor."

The Programmers Guild supports President Obama's call to get Americans back on the job and help rebuild the American middle-class. Accordingly Congress has a duty to assure that Americans be given preference for the U.S. jobs created under ARRA.

REFERENCES

H-1B visa holders are paid less than US counterparts - source of TCS quote:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=cda81c51-7247-4c2a-8e36-2414c5f9686c

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2009/03/prweb2215804.htm
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 11:23 PM
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1. Good.
That about sums it up.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 11:40 PM
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2. Works for me, and about freaking time
I watched many of the jobs I qualified for being replaced by inbound H1B workers, or simply shipped offshore. I redirected my career to the web, but not everyone is going to do that and we need to protect our technology workers.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 11:41 PM
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:09 AM
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4. Happy to be the 5th rec. If only to piss off the troll. eom
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:23 AM
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5. YES YES YES!!!!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:32 AM
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6. EXCELLENT idea. I like it. n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 12:50 AM
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7. great idea
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:45 AM
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8. Thanks....K&R n/t
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 11:38 AM
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9. K & R n/t
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:44 PM
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10. K&R This is a no-brainer.
It's an outrage that this still exists or ever existed, to have to be undone. It should just be cancelled entirely though. Nothing about it can be justified. The idea that in a country this big, any given "skill set" doesn't exist, is a fairy tale.

If there is any skill that is so rarified as this pretends, then "the market" would bid-up the salary for it until people here to fill it were found, or would train for it. The "vacuum" of availability couldn't last long. Where is the H-1B companies' faith in "the market", I wonder? Are we to believe this is some extra-market phenomenon, some exceptional eventuality that a job-market can't supply?

Baloney.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:22 AM
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11. I wrote my Congressman and faxed my letter to his Washington DC and CT office
Monday. Talked to a CT staffer on Tuesday who deals with immigration. She said that she will read it. I also faxed them the Programmer Guild's 2009 fact sheets on H-1B visas and PERM.

I was laid off in November last year and my duties were taken over by a contractor from India who was here on an H-1B visa. I have no ill will towards the individual contractor. He knows that he is getting the shit dumped on him in the wake of the layoffs. I told my Congressman that I oppose the corporate policy that uses H-1B visas to replace American workers with cheap foreign workers and I have a big concern that H-1B visas are used to not only replace IT workers but nurses and teachers. The nurses are a big problem because we don't know what kind of education the foreign imports have and if they are greater than or equal to or less than American standards for nurses. If they are less than American standards then lives could be at stake.
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blue97keet Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 10:58 AM
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12. E-mail from Washtech seeking individuals who trained replacements
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:04:38 GMT
Sender: getactive@washtech.org

Hello. WashTech is documenting Americans who are training their
replacements at work currently. If you or anyone you know across
the nation is in such a situation, pls contact
priyanka@washtech.org with "my replacement" in the subject line,
and your full contact info, including location. WashTech
guarantees that your identity will be 100% protected. Pls
contact me for details.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 02:29 PM
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13. Interesting Post & welcome to DU blue97keet....PLEASE Post This Email
as a separate thread in Gen Discussion.
This is worth passing along and I fear it may get missed in the Editorial Postings.

I would think that many who read DU may know someone, or perhaps they themselves, who would like to respond to your WashTech Email.

I encourage you to make this information more availible by posting it in GD.
Thanks
Blaze
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 05:06 PM
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14. I had 2 days to teach the Indian contractor what I had been doing for 10 years
In short, he got the documentation I had written, but not much training and from what my friends who are still at work and working on the training env told me, the contractor is overwhelmed. He not only got my duties but still had to do his old job plus pick up work from the other 2 in our group who left.

The training env needs at a minimum 1 person full time on it. Right now they got at best 1 contractor who only works on it 1/3 - 1/2 of his time.

The customer service department spent $5-6 million upgrading the hardware and such in the training env, which is what they use, but now the data is getting old because the Indian contractor can't keep up with the work load they dumped on him. Old data will mean that the Prod-like Training env will soon be giving them errors due to data issues. This contractor understands my position and we like each other. He knows that he gets the crap dumped on him when layoffs occur. The company has basically let the customer service department waste $5-6 million on upgrading the hardware in the environment.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 07:28 PM
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15. Glad to see that you posted it in GD.
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 12:20 PM
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16. an important post. I missed it until just now. should be cross posted from econ forum.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 02:37 PM
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17. Will do. n/t
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 04:24 PM
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18. great idea
K&R
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