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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:27 PM
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Obama Signals Readiness to Further Militarize Drug War with Potential Deployment of National Guard t
President Obama is considering deploying National Guard troops along the border with Mexico in response to the escalating drug war. More than 7,000 people have been killed in Mexico in drug-related violence in the last year. Much of the drug-related violence in Mexico has been fueled by the ability of drug cartels to purchase AK-47 assault rifles and other arms in the United States. We host a roundtable discussion with Laura Carlsen of the Center for International Policy, NYU professor and author Greg Grandin, and Paul Helmke of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/13/obama_signals_readiness_to_further_militarize
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2009/march/video/dnB20090313a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=00:11:40
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2009/march/audio/dn20090313.ra&proto=rtsp&start=00:11:40
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masuki bance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:28 PM
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1. More jobs
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:30 PM
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2. So how long before we have a new legal and robust cash crop in the U.S.??
Edited on Sat Mar-14-09 07:31 PM by polichick
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:34 PM
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4. If You
Go through the article you will find that you already have a very good, legal, cash crop. As you call it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:36 PM
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5. I was thinking of a much more friendly cash crop.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 08:53 PM
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12. Hemp is a great crop
tough fiber, makes great and lasting paper and fabric, great as biomass, and can grow in marginal lands. I say GO FOR IT!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 09:30 PM
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13. "Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country." -Thomas Jefferson
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:32 PM
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3. I think I heard Texas' Gov wanted Military control. Huge mistake to let Bush Country
have any military control. I imagine they would indoctrinate them at the new Bush Library-Terrorist Training Camp.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:43 PM
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7. President Obama refused Perry's request for 1,000 troops
Obama Refuses Perry's Request for 1,000 Troops on Border

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29683342/
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 12:10 AM
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14. I heard that he is reconsidering it...... can't quote where except from MPR
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:36 PM
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6. Since when? Yesterday he said he didn't want to militarize the border...
Edited on Sat Mar-14-09 07:37 PM by babylonsister
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/white-house-watch/2009/03/obama_mocks_gop_critics/pf.html

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Todd J. Gillman writes for the Dallas Morning News: "Mexico's drug war and the risks of cross-border violence deserve top-level attention, President Barack Obama said in an interview today, but it isn't time to send U.S. troops.

"'We've got a very big border with Mexico,' the president said. 'I'm not interested in militarizing the border.'...

"'We're going to examine whether and if National Guard deployments would make sense and under what circumstances they would make sense....I don't have a particular tipping point in mind. I think it's unacceptable if you've got drug gangs crossing our borders and killing U.S. citizens.'"
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:48 PM
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8. Didn't Read That In
The clip that you posted.

JUAN GONZALEZ: President Obama is considering deploying National Guard troops along the border with Mexico in response to the escalating drug war. In his most direct comments so far on Mexico’s fight against drug cartels, Obama told reporters from regional newspapers, quote, “We’re going to examine whether and if National Guard deployments would make sense and under what circumstances they would make sense.” But Obama ruled out any immediate military move.


More than a thousand people have been killed in Mexico in drug-related violence this year. 6,000 people died last year. Vice President Joe Biden highlighted the threat posed by drug traffickers this week when he announced Gil Kerlikowske as the new drug czar.


http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/13/obama_signals_readiness_to_further_militarize

But removing the semantics. Go through the Democracy Now post.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:58 PM
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10. 'We've got a very big border with Mexico,' the president said. 'I'm not interested in militarizing"
It's there.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:54 PM
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9. Oh bullshit. nt
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 08:52 PM
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11. Easier solution
Legalize marijuana, allow folks to grow their own locally or buy from small farmers--all for a fee or tax, of course, to raise revenue. Suddenly the demand for Mexican goes waaay down.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 10:27 AM
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15. So, where are the cartels getting their automatic weapons, rocket launchers, and grenades?
Edited on Sun Mar-15-09 10:28 AM by benEzra
Because those things are NOT available in the USA except to police, military, and government agencies or their suppliers.

From this week's Los Angeles Times:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mexico-arms-race15-2009mar15,0,229992.story

The Feb. 21 attack on police headquarters in coastal Zihuatanejo, which injured four people, fit a disturbing trend of Mexico's drug wars. Traffickers have escalated their arms race, acquiring military-grade weapons, including hand grenades, grenade launchers, armor-piercing munitions and antitank rockets with firepower far beyond the assault rifles and pistols that have dominated their arsenals.

Most of these weapons are being smuggled from Central American countries or by sea, eluding U.S. and Mexican monitors who are focused on the smuggling of semiautomatic and conventional weapons purchased from dealers in the U.S. border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.

If someone tells you that automatic weapons, grenades, and other military hardware are coming from this country, ask what government agency they're coming from, because they're not coming from the civilian market. The U.S. civilian gun market is limited to non-automatic, non-sound-suppressed small arms under .51 caliber, plus over-.50 shotguns and a handful of over-.50 hunting rifles.

Central America is awash with Warsaw Pact and U.S. military hardware, though, due to decades of Cold War proxy skirmishes and the equipment supplied to fight them.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 07:02 PM
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16. Blowback. nt
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