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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:00 PM
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So Long, Alex P. Keaton

The millennial generation could pull American politics even further to the left, and for a longer time, than the Reagan generation pulled our politics to the right.

Paul Waldman | March 17, 2009

A quarter-century ago, political observers marveled at a new phenomenon: an enormous wave of conservative young people. Instead of tuning in, turning on, and dropping out, they were donning polo shirts, keeping their hair cut short, and waxing eloquent on the wonders of the free market. Their exemplar was Alex P. Keaton, the hero of the television show Family Ties, whose ex-hippie parents shook their heads at their son's affection for Ronald Reagan. The series ran from 1982 to 1989; in its finale, Alex leaves home to take a job on Wall Street.
In 1984, 59 percent of the nation's Alex P. Keatons voted for Reagan, an extraordinary percentage for a Republican (and just over his proportion of the popular vote as a whole). What was going on? As E.J. Dionne, then a reporter for The New York Times, wrote near the end of Reagan's tenure in the fall of 1988, "Academics and political consultants who have studied the youth vote have many explanations for their movement toward the Republicans, but the most powerful is the simplest: Young Americans have known only Mr. Reagan and Mr. Carter as President, and Mr. Reagan is the overwhelming favorite. Similarly, many people who first voted in the Depression still see politics in terms of the Democratic President Roosevelt and the Republican President Hoover."

It was a remarkable shift, and one that helped shape politics for the ensuing two decades. Currently, we are beginning an even more dramatic turn. Today's young people -- often called the millennial generation -- could pull American politics even further to the left, and for a longer time, than the Reagan generation pulled our politics to the right.

Start with the obvious: 67 percent of voters under 29 cast their ballot for Barack Obama, a result unequalled since exit polling began. (If you're interested, exit-poll data dating back to 1976 can be found at the Roper Center.) Despite periodic proclamations that young conservatives are poised for a comeback (see, for instance, this lengthy portrait in The New York Times Magazine only six years ago of the "Young Hipublicans" who were ready to take the country by storm), young people aren't finding much to like about today's GOP. And as a pair of new reports from the Center for American Progress on the present and future of American ideology show, those feelings are likely to run much deeper than a single election or a single candidate.

While they cover a great deal of ground, the reports contain some particularly interesting points about the millennial generation. In "State of American Political Ideology, 2009,", we learn that young people are the most progressive age group overall and the most progressive on social issues, which might not be surprising. But they are also the most progressive age group in their opinions about the role of government, which might be. And as the other report, "New Progressive America," points out, this generation's share of the voting population will increase every year until 2020, when they will represent nearly 40 percent of the electorate.

Which means that the electorate will change profoundly. The "Progressive America" report contains a provocative section called "An End to the Culture Wars," a title that may be a tad optimistic (in fact, you can look at the entire history of domestic controversy in America as one long culture war). But there is a shift taking place, and it's one that the cleverest Republican strategists and most charismatic conservative politicians will be powerless to stop. Simply put, today's young people have grown up in an environment far different from those their parents and grandparents experienced, and nearly all those changes will push them in a more progressive direction.

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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:01 PM
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1. For a second there I thought Michael J. Fox died...
Jeez.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:05 PM
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3. Whew, me too.
They probably could have spent a little more time thinking through that headline.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:22 PM
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4. Same here.
Really bad headline. Gave me a scare.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:28 PM
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6. Me, too.
Geez, that's a really uncalled-for headline.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-19-09 01:54 PM
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14. My fear as well. Glad I was wrong.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:03 PM
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2. My generation were the Alex P. Keatons....

I hated being in college in the 1980s. There were so many Business students, who didn't care about anything except making $$$$$$ after getting out of school.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 06:26 PM
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5. Remember the "Die Yuppie Scum" bumper stickers?
I think those were for them. lol It's too bad they didn't take that advice.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 08:40 PM
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8. Yeah, I was going to say..

...it didn't work too well, did it?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 08:34 PM
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7. I hear you. I was surrounded by business majors, engineering majors and computer science majors
and I was considered the fool because everyone knows that journalism majors have no job waiting for them when they get out and even when they get a job, they don't make good money.

The ironic thing is that now, everyone is pretty much in the same boat. Having a business or engineering or computing degree is no longer a sure-fire ticket to a wealthy future like it was back then, that's for sure. Not unless you're getting paid a bonus to stay with a bailed-out company. More likely, though, you've been laid off or outsourced.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 08:43 PM
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9. I studied language and literature..

...and have a secure, decent paying job. Can't complain. But all that technical and "business" crap has proven to be expendable, to some extent as jobs are outsourced and the economy turns down.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 09:03 AM
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13. A bit different here in the UK...
under Thatcher the computer science and engineering students were seen as nerds, likely to be secure but not the powerful people of the future. Business yes; but that was usually done as a postgraduate course: MBA. Those who saw themselves as future top-dogs in the 1980s tended to study politics and economics, take part in lots of student politics and journalism, and looked down on the 'Northern chemists' as they called all science students from unfashionable or state schools. Even though their heroine Maggie Thatcher had literally been a Northern chemist!

Their current equivalents are fewer in number and far more likely to doing courses that include Management - which has become an undergraduate option only in fairly recent years.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 08:57 AM
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12. Mine too (or British equivalents)
Not EVERYONE at university in the early-to-mid 80s was an overambitious arrogant Thatcherite, but enough were to be a pain. The clever-clever student journalists, modelling themselves on the likes of Auberon Waugh, were the worst. They all wanted to grow up to be Boris Johnson, I suppose; and one of them did.

I suppose our nearest equivalent to Alex P. Keaton was William Hague, boy wonder of the Conservative Party who made a speech at the Conservative Party Conference at the age of about 16, went on to be chairman of the Oxford Union, and was much later Leader of the Opposition and Blair's decidedly unsuccessful opponent in 2001.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 09:42 PM
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10. Boo to your headline
Crass, Rush worthy. Sorry but the man is ill. I am sort of amazed.
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-18-09 08:36 AM
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11. Speaking of APK, that 14 yr old Puke kid was just on
The "Today" show. :puke:
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