Don’t Do a Google Image Search for “Agent Orange”

[Stingo]

The Border Patrol is planning to use Agent Orange to clear brush along the Rio Grande near Laredo. That is simply horrific, and this story needs to spread far and wide. Really, don’t do that google search unless you need motivation for spreading the story that our government is spreading this horrific chemical in our water supply, near our homes.

http://allspinzone.com/wp/2009/03/25/dont-do-a-google-image-search-for-agent-orange/

[HillbillyBob]

1. SHUDDER, as if genie mods on the food we are fed, or round up

in our food supply but to use this stuff again when it is known that it causes such demoralizing gene damage.

"The U.S. Border Patrol plans to poison the plant life along a 1.1-mile stretch of the Rio Grande riverbank as soon as Wednesday to get rid of the hiding places used by smugglers, robbers and illegal immigrants.

If successful, the $2.1 million pilot project could later be duplicated along as many as 130 miles of river in the patrol’s Laredo Sector, as well as other parts of the U.S.-Mexico border.

Although Border Patrol and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency officials say the chemical is safe for animals, detractors say the experiment is reminiscent of the Vietnam War-era Agent Orange chemical program and raises questions about long-term effects.

“We don’t believe that is even moral,” said Jay Johnson-Castro Sr., executive director of the Rio Grande International Study Center, located at Laredo Community College, adjacent to the planned test area.

“It is unprecedented that they’d do it in a populated area,” he said of spraying the edge of the Rio Grande as it weaves between the cities of Laredo and Nuevo Laredo, Mexico."

We know that genie food that we are being slyly fed thru the efforts of monsanto et all is bad enough that we would let this genie out of the bag again is horrific.
IM not pro undocumented emigration , but I would rather see more imigrants than have water, plants, fish, animals and humans subjected to Monsantos poisons.
Isn't the Rio Grand the water supply for all the cities along there?

[Stingo]

2. The gene damage is not just demoralizing.

I'm serious, the google image search is devastating.

[HillbillyBob]

4. I looked , remembering what my cousins that served in Nam went

through after return and several other guys I knew, with strange cancers and their children with deformities. I was too young.
One cousins wife had repeated miscarriages of babies that would never have lived, mercifully. He died about 5 years ago from a virulent cancer. I had not seen him in years as they had moved furthur up in the mountains of WV. He could not stand to be around people. He was such a nice guy, but the ptsd, being sick all the time hearing and vision loss.
I had another friend that went through 7 kinds of hell with health, ptsd and the run around the VA gave him he finally committed suicide by drug overdose about 14 years ago.

Then of course with the economy in the terlit , regular folks dont have time or attention to spend on govcorpse waste and villainy, I have wondered for years if this is not 'their' plan to keep us off balance and in the dark about what kind of shit they pull....

[roguevalley]

24. my cousin died of bone cancer from agent orange in VietNam. :(

[JohnnyLib2]

3. Deja vu -- RVN years.

The lessons of history.......?

[leftchick]

5. here is the google search

if you can take it


http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&q=agent+orange+victims&revid=43968375&ei=LCbKSfa8O9CJtgejqpTlDQ&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=1

:cry:

[era veteran]

6. NO NO NO NO NO

You smell that shit one time you will never forget it. I know American deads from this . This is a form of a W M D like nerve agents. It just takes longer. I hope this never happens.

[Stingo]

11. Why risk at all?

Why take the risk?

[HillbillyBob]

7. I suspect monsanto has a bunch of this stuff in storage, which has already been

paid for by the US tax payer, now they want to use it up and charge the tax payer for it again. To hell with the consequences.
snip
"Ten years are necessary to spray 84,000,000 litres of defoliants.
COMPOSITIONS
Among those defoliants, there is Agent blue, holding cyanide particularly efficient to poison the rice fields, Agent green, Agent white, Agent purple, Agent pink, according to species to be destroyed, then Agent orange, so called because of coloured strips on the barrels containing the poison. Agent orange represents by only one 62% of the sprayed defoliants’ mass in Vietnam.

Agent orange contains the Tetrachlorodibenzo-para-dioxin, or TCDD 2,3,7.8 on account of its molecular composition. The dioxins are made of 2 benzene nuclei, 2 chlorine, fluorine or bromine molecules (4 for the most toxic variety).

The TCDD dioxin is the strongest known poison - one million times more toxic than the most harmful natural poison – and besides the most lasting one.

EQUIVALENCES

If an equivalence is not at all scientific – since it bases on a data to make a comparative projection. – it has sometimes worth to impress our mind perceiving the extent of disaster. …A 2002 study of University of Colombia of New York reveals that 80 grams of dioxin poured in a town’s water supply would kill 8,000,000 inhabitants. On that base, 40 billions times the lethal potential for one human being would have been sprayed over Vietnam."
snip

Rest of article can be found here...

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php%3Fcontext%3Dva%26aid%3D4490&usg=__w0TQLRVlPnExAFUOenrkgCUogtE=&h=189&w=200&sz=38&hl=en&start=27&sig2=_EJYT7Pv1vxzkaSjEmhxFA&um=1&tbnid=SR2rWQ9NvfFR-M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=104&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dagent%2Borange%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D18%26um%3D1&ei=6SHKSaDJGJD4MMusxb8D

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=4490

[progressoid]

13. Your links are bad.

[elehhhhna]

26. Effects of dioxins on human health

Short-term exposure of humans to high levels of dioxins may result in skin lesions, such as chloracne and patchy darkening of the skin, and altered liver function. Long-term exposure is linked to impairment of the immune system, the developing nervous system, the endocrine system and reproductive functions. Chronic exposure of animals to dioxins has resulted in several types of cancer. TCDD was evaluated by the WHO’s International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) in 1997. Based on animal data and on human epidemiology data, TCDD was classified by IARC as a "known human carcinogen”.
http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:XkvV8gT_NOAJ:www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs225/en/+dioxin&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[tekisui]

8. It is a horible and stupid idea to kill the vegetation, but it isn't how they

are planning on doing it.It says the experiment is reminiscent, not that they are necessarily going to use Agent Orange. From the only article I have seen, so far:

"Although Border Patrol and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency officials say the chemical is safe for animals, detractors say the experiment is reminiscent of the Vietnam War-era Agent Orange chemical program and raises questions about long-term effects."

From the link in the OP.

[acmavm]

9. I thought the defenders of truth, justice, and the American Way

got elected last November. I guess the crazies are still in charge though.

edit: :sarcasm:

[Stingo]

12. These are the crazy

Border Patrol types. Try reversing that trend within a few years, much less months.

[DainBramaged]

10. A drop in the ocean compared to the amount of poisons put on lawns every weekend

so that grass stays green. Or sprayed on those pesky weeds growing between the cracks of the perfect sidewalks surrounded by perfect grass.

[arikara]

14. My step father used to use that weed killer

and he loves having the birds and butterflies around. I gave him a copy of "Silent Spring" and problem solved, he never used it again. I could not understand the lawn obsession thing until I found out that it actually was pushed by the poison companies as a marketing gimmick to sell their toxic waste to the gullible public. To me dandelions and clover flowers are a sign of spring, not only are they bright and cheery but the plants are so beneficial in so many ways why ever would you poison your nest to get rid of them.

[DainBramaged]

15. I used ultrasonic pest repellents outside and inside for years

no ticks, no fleas, and my homes had lots of woods and pine trees, and I NEVER used pesticides. My lawn was always the bane of the neighborhood, but I was proud of it. Now I live in a concrete jungle because I cannot do all of the house stuff.

[HillbillyBob]

17. We are starting up an eco farm. The yard, to call it lawn

is very generous, gets no fertilizer or herbicide, water only when it rains.
Our neighbors chickens and guineas to the flea and tick eating, tho we have fenced the garden plots off so that only the guineas can get in there. Guineas eat bugs, chicken eat everything.
We only use herbicide in spot spray with a spray bottle on poison ivy(I'm hyper-allergic as in trips to the ER )
Other weeds are cut when we cut the lawn and left a day or so to dry out then used as mulch in the garden with more mulch over it to keep the seeds from sprouting.
We use Volk oil and Neem oil for heavy infestations of incects, but the chickens and guineas seem to be taking care of that anyway.
Neem also is anti fungal.
We have used granulated stuff for fire ants, unless someone knows of something, short of pouring gasoline or kero down their nest and lighting it.
We also are learning plants that you can use around the garden that pest incects do not like (marigolds) or attracts and kills them (Japanese beetles find 4 O'clocks irresistible, the 4 O'clock are lethal to the beetles, but save our berry crop last year, the year before the beetles ate nearly everything)
As we are going along our lawn is becoming more and more Edible landscape with orchard trees and food garden.
For years I have though that goof courses were a sin, for the waste of aerable land and the amount of chemicals used on them. I used to work for a nursery business as a visiting salesmen and have seen and smelled a lot of spray used on golf courses and lawns.
I have heard several calls for Victory Gardening to make a return. I think that would be a very good idea. When I was a kid it was cool to go swap veggies with neighbors who could grow stuff that we could not. It also made for nice visits with your neighbors too. This year our neighbors are planting lots of potatoes, and we will be planting lots of tomatoes, their garden slopes and gets different light so potatoes will do better there than on our side of the hill.


I also have two uncles that are disabled from using Agent Orange at Fort Leonard Wood in Kansas along the fences. I intended to include that in previous answer, but got distracted with the phone, while talking to my aunt that still remembers them coming home with it on them and the smell....

[winyanstaz]

16. My family believes Agent Orange killed my husband

He was a two-term vietnam vet, black Beret, swift boat commander and a loving husband and father and step father of seven. He was blown through the roof of his boat when it hit a land mine and had extensive surgery over the course of the rest of his life to restore his nose, his cheekbone and his eyes.
He was also shot multiple times by the vietcong while laying in the mud after his boat blew up and still he survived all that.
What killed him was that the United States Military dropped Agent Orange several times...knowing full well that my husband and his troops were in the area.
He was sent home by the Dr's to die with less than five weeks left or so they said.
I nursed him day and night for another nine years..while he fought for every breath and the U.S. government never acknowledged Agent Orange could possible be the reason.
He was also afraid to claim Agent Orange because he thought the government would take his retirement if he complained but we all know what it was.
It was difficult but during those nine years, we had good and bad times too..new family members were born and some also died but at least he was with us and got a few more years of being with those that loved him.
Agent Orange turns the bronchial tubes to where they have no elasticity. This means that at any moment they can collapse and someone has to help you get them back open so you can breath.
The point of all this is to tell you all...there are long lasting effects from Agent Orange. To this day, the areas in Nam that were sprayed are still causing cancers and allergies and collapsed lungs.
Stop this we must...it is insanity to deliberately poison the earth and the water tables.
It is not just plants that die..but all the animals, the insects, the birds and the people for generations to come.
Have we not destroyed enough yet?

[DainBramaged]

18. Your strength is an inspiration, thank you for your story

I can tell you that it has taken me a few minutes to recover so I could write this through the tears. God bless you and yours.



:hug:

[Stinger2]

20. Agent Orange Never Happened, Don’t You know?

Agent Orange Never Happened, Don’t You know?


The government had made that clear in 1978, after the first 500 claims came in. Garth Dettinger, an Air Force deputy surgeon general, told Congress there was no evidence that Agent Orange had harmed anyone

http://www.junkscience.com/nov98/sdutao.html

[winyanstaz]

29. ty, that is most kind of you.

[bertman]

19. There are times when I think the Republicans are right to want to drown government in

a bathtub. Now is one of them. What are those fucking idiots thinking??

Some zealot with a badge, a budget, and half a brain.

This must be stopped.

[MadMaddie]

22. I think this is more of the Corporations dictating what the

government would use and how. During the * admin corporations ruled the day.

I would be curious to know when they started using the poisen. That would tell us a lot.

[MadMaddie]

21. I thought Agent Orange was outlawed?

[yurbud]

23. contact your congress-oids & Obama:

find your senators & rep:
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/index.html

to Obama:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

[Stingo]

27. Good news

thanks

[greenbird]

28. Thank you for your post.

It sent me on a fun learning journey.

[greenbird]

25. The substance that was proposed is Imazapyr.

Info on Imazapyr:

http://tncinvasives.ucdavis.edu/products/handbook/17.Imazapyr.pdf

Also, it looks like the plan is on hold for now:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/25/mexico.border.herbicide/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Edited to add link.