Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why People Buy Assault Weapons & Wedge Issues that have been Flamboyantly used by the Far Right

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
Stinger2 Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 01:04 PM
Original message
Why People Buy Assault Weapons & Wedge Issues that have been Flamboyantly used by the Far Right
Why People Buy Assault Weapons & Wedge Issues that have been Flamboyantly used by the Far Right

First lets just say a criminal that will use a gun, will use any gun they can get, someone that will rob or assault you will not buy a gun legally.

Hunters and law abiding citizens that go through the gun check system buy them for many reasons. Some for protection, say a family that has valuables in there position such as children, they go to work everyday and not down to the shooting range will hit about anything they point at with a semi automatic or a shot gun without any training other then pull the trigger.

Gun enthusiast like them for a investment, they go up in price every year as well so does the ammunition.

In today’s economy brought on by greed we now have more people with less money, crime will and has risen so the need for protection is a good reason to arm yourself, hand guns or rifles will turn around most robbers.

Guns going to Mexico is brought on by Money! The wages in Mexico are very low with corruption among the officials very high. The immigration that has been wide open for labor to fuel the housing boom has many now without income. Selling drugs is just another job to some without putting in 40 hour weeks. For some reason are leaders do everything on the short run, bring in millions of laborers then worry about the consequences latter, preventive medicine doesn’t work when greed is fueling the agenda.

Reid joins Pelosi in opposing ban revival

"Sen. Reid would oppose an effort reinstate the ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future," Manley told The Hill in an e-mail late Thursday night.

It was not immediately clear whether Reid would block the bill from the Senate, but his opposition casts serious doubt on its chances. Also, Manley noted that Reid voted against the ban in 1994 and again when it expired in 2004.

Reid's stance joins him with Pelosi, who told reporters Thursday that the administration had not checked with her before Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters the administration would attempt to reinstate the ban. Pelosi gave a flat “no” when asked if she had spoken to Holder or any other administration officials about the issue.


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/reid-joins-pelosi-in-opposing-weapons-ban-revival-2009-02-26.html

Much about the guns are called wedge issues that republicans have been flamboyantly using on the politically motivated far right propaganda channels. Stem cell, gay marriage and guns that effect a minuet part of the population are Wedge Issues that get the masses aggravated enough to vote the crooks back in office.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 03:17 PM
Response to Original message
1. Gun owners might be far more than "a minuet part of the population"...
* there are 250 - 280 million firearms in the US
* 40 - 50% of US homes own a firearm, that's 120 - 150 million people

http://www.americanfirearms.org/statistics.php#5

Estimates vary widely, but there are a hell of a lot of firearm owners in the states.

Right now for some reason, people are buying firearms and ammo at unprecedented rates. It could be a fear of Democrats banning firearms and it might be investors moving money into weapons and gold hoping for a big profit. Investors have created bubbles before and will again.

But many in our Democratic Party push for "feel good" laws like the reinstatement of the Assault Weapons Ban. True many in the base of the Democratic Party, especially those in the bigger liberal cities, oppose firearm ownership. But when you leave those anti-gun bastions you will find many states that allow licensed citizens to carry concealed weapons.

In 39 concealed-carry states, issuing officials may not arbitrarily deny a concealed-carry application, a practice known as Florida-style "shall issue". It is so named because Florida gained national attention for adopting this policy in 1987, leading to citizens of other states advocating similar measures, even though this practice had been adopted in Washington state in 1961.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States

These states are to say the least "firearm friendly". And the gun owners in these states, if worried, will show up at the polls to vote for pro-gun candidates. The Republicans are very successful at painting Democrats as anti-gun, although many Democrat politicians receive high ratings from the NRA.

You could argue that they didn't show at the last election, but John McCain was a tired worn out politician with old ideas. While he was a Republican, he was no great friend of gun owners. After eight years of Bush the Junior even Republicans were pissed off at their party leadership.

The Republicans are scrambling to find support for their ideas. Wedge issues such as draconian gun control laws, pushed by Democrats, work to their advantage. Obama has the opportunity to be the greatest President for the common person in my lifetime. If the party leadership forces him to support laws such as a new AWB, they will only shoot themselves in the foot again. The midterms will be a disaster and our party will lose many seats in Congress.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stinger2 Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. Laws are on the books that that can stop the exodus of weapons out of the USA
In your statement Democrats are for gun control, don’t believe that, people are against gun control, millions of Democrats don’t want government touching their guns. That’s a Republican Wedge Issue and I never said is a minuet part of the voters that are concerned about gun control.

Obama will have a very hard time getting re-elected if he lets Mexico ban US guns. Laws are on the books that that can stop the exodus of weapons out of the USA.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 03:48 PM
Response to Original message
2. Often for much the same reason they buy porn.
^
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-20-09 12:58 AM
Response to Original message
3. One person's opinion - n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 02:30 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC