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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:38 PM
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Is Iran's Regime Cracking? by Salameh Nematt
Pillars of the Islamic Revolution are turning against the supreme leader and a massive, bloody security crackdown on the thousands of peaceful protesters is looking increasingly likely—leaving Obama with a huge dilemma.

Regardless of how the events in Iran unfold in the coming days and weeks, it is now beyond any doubt that the Iranian regime is showing some serious cracks and could be imploding, with pillars of the Islamic Revolution turning against Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and the ruling establishment.

Never in the 30-year history of the Islamic Republic of Iran have two former presidents—Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani and Mohammad Khatami—split from the supreme leader and backed the opposition reformist candidate, in this case Mir Hossein Mousavi, who himself is a former prime minister.

"Once we hear that all the foreign correspondents have been expelled, we know what’s coming next."

Mehdi Karroubi, a former speaker of the Iranian parliament who was also a candidate in the elections, piled on and joined forces with Rafsanjani and Khatami in support of Mousavi, creating a formidable coalition against the “reinstalled” President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Khamenei, and the military apparatus behind him.

But it will be the military-security establishment that will have to settle the conflict, for better or worse. So far, it has exercised relative restraint, with the hope that the protests die down. But if they don’t, it’ll probably be a different story.

While the conventional wisdom is the supreme leader ultimately calls the shots, the decisive factor in determining the outcome of the current internal conflict, under the circumstances, will be the military and intelligence establishment. It’s a monster created by the religious theocracy over the years and strengthened by Ahmadinejad under Khamenei’s watch in the past five years, and it now seems more powerful than the religious clique that reigned supreme before the election. That monster now has a life of its own and can topple or install whoever it wants, assuming it remains united.

Continues: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-06-16/is-irans-regime-cracking/full/
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:43 PM
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1. I wish Iran the best of luck. (nt)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:53 PM
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3. Extremism of all sorts eventually comes to an end....IE French Revolution
American Revolution, etc
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 03:52 PM
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2. "...leaving Obama with a huge dilemma."
Yeah, pizza or Chinese.
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Aslanspal Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 04:30 PM
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4. Someone please comment and I think it is important how does this supreme leader...
Someone please comment and I think it is important how does this supreme leader handle pressure???


1. will he run an hide and capitulate and let someone else have it
2. will he be brutal ...kill em all and let allah sort em out.
3.does he live in a bubble and not see the protests???
4.will he hold on to power like a pit bull??? regardless of damage to nation.

basically and I hope Obama has his profile ...how this guy is gonna act.

I hope he is a realist and capitulates.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:52 PM
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6. 1st one must realize that hes a psychotic Narcissistic megalomaniac thats blessed by the Prophet
Edited on Wed Jun-17-09 05:54 PM by sam sarrha
or thinks he is.. ,i've heard his pathetic grandiose delusions,..and it's all downhill from there.. Islam isn't blessed with Reason nor logic, it is blind faith and what ever Muhammad did is redo-able and blessed.. it is estimated that the historical Muslim invasion/occupation of India alone put 80,000,000 people to the sword. what's a few protesters...?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 05:42 PM
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5. they are really sick of the Theocracy... i am reading a book by an Iranian who has relatives that
were Ayatollahs.. he primary theory is that muslim men want to emulate Muhammad, particularly the leadership. the rest of the story is his Psychobiography of Muhammad. i am of late realizing just what sort of thumb it is that they are living under.. i wish them the best, but it isn't gonna happen...

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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 11:54 PM
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8. Sounds like an interesting book...
What's the name of the author?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-18-09 09:30 PM
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9. the book is 'Understanding MUHAMMAD:a psychobiography' by Ali Sina. i am totally blown away by this
book. it is taken from the historical record... which is highly detailed, he gives both sides of the story. it is so captivating. i studied cults and did research in a prison as a parole officer and councilor. i also taught meditation as a counseling research project.

as Ali says , a little is about Allah, the rest is all about Muhammad.. a psychotic Narcissist, who was severely mentally ill. probably had frontal lobe schizophrenia, paranoid schizophrenic, suffered Acromegaly..which also has a paranoia symptom, and turbocharges the libido big time, he was most likely a sex addict also, complicated by impotence.. he suffered separation anxiety abandoned by mother early, doting grandfather died on him, passed around the family, he later killed people who tried to leave, probably scared shitless of him.. tried to escape.. e had them murdered. and today if people quit the religion they are murdered.. its all about emulating Muhammad.. being as he was.. and boy was he fuck'n piece of work. pathological lier, pedophile, thief, robber, he apparently had little contact with reality... i believe his inner circle managed the money, slaves.. typical oligarchy that forms around a psychotic narcissist.. hitler/dubya.. same thing

i had come to the conclusion before this book that Islam was a total personality cult, it is really difficult and perhaps dangerous to try to have an intelligent conversation with a devout Muslim. there is no reason involved.. apparently there is only what is taboo and what Muhammad said was approved, so you really cant have a reasonable conversation, early on people noticed Allah only appeared to facilitate what Muhammad wanted at the moment. apparently he became such a thug that it all got totally out of hand quickly and there was no dealing with the situation. there is a lot similar to the Republican party there too..

i long ago concluded that the Republicans were a cult, but instead of a personality, they had an ideology, totally psychotic, totally out of touch with reality, totally unattainable.. but their reason it doesn't work is outside factors, the democrats, always ruining their utopia, they are very dangerous, their PR system is similar to Compulsive lieing.. there is no truth there, only delusion/illusion, nothing to base on a truth, so they must lie to counter their Nemesis, and they are proud of it. just like the Muslims, they use the same propaganda.

i am not too far into the book yet, but i have worked with his type before... the more i read the more it scares me..

there are certainly many good people deceived by Islam, i am not damning most of the people involved in the religion. they are victims, they suffer horribly. until the world learns what islam really is/and was, this problem will fester.. and may cast us all back into a feudal dark age.. i don't feel much better about christianity, i'm not just picking on Islam.

it is all about training the mind, getting the right parts working and turning off the wrong ones.. has nothing to do with religion.. religion keeps the wrong regions of the brain dominate, that's why you cant talk to them they are in a parallel universe, it's a different world with different rules..

meditation is the most effective method to get to the SPOT where it all makes sense, its really obvious

the book is available at amazon.com, the book depository.. and at Faithfreedom.org ,have to google it
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-17-09 10:05 PM
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7. I thought this shit was all good when it happened in Georgia and Ukraine and stuff. nt
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