Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Republicans Win Big in California!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:25 AM
Original message
The Republicans Win Big in California!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/the-republicans-win-big-i_b_242016.html

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and his horde of retrograde Republican lawmakers got everything they wanted in a horrific bargain with Democratic legislative leaders that has ended (for the time being) California's budget impasse. Not only will there not be a single cent raised for the state by taxing oil or tobacco, Schwarzenegger and the Republicans privatized $1 billion from the workman's compensation insurance system, gutted all levels of the education budget, pauperized state workers with a third "furlough" day each month, raided the coffers of local governments, and even gave away the first new oil-drilling leases off the Santa Barbara coast in forty years. How any of these steps help the state in any way in anybody's guess.

"We had one hand tied behind our back," Senate Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg said, because the Republicans used the governor's office and their slender minority in the Senate to take any tax increases off the table. This maneuver left the hapless Democrats with nothing really to "negotiate" except how to use accounting gimmicks to make the dismantling of the public sector in a time of recession appear marginally acceptable to the public. The governor wanted to "eliminate" the state's welfare system. Instead, it's only gutted. The Democrats gave the Republicans 99.99 percent of everything they wanted. I guess we should consider ourselves lucky that the representatives of the Democratic majority held out for that .01 percent! Yippee! Things could have been worse. The Democrats could have agreed to shred the public employee pension system as Schwarzenegger had originally demanded. Last February the Democrats agreed to put the "open primary" on the 2010 ballot, which only benefits Republicans and explains why they wanted it so badly. I suppose we could have lost another structural reform. Just wait until October when the next set of budget "negotiations" begins anew. When Arnold Schwarzenegger calls an agreement "a really great, great accomplishment" you know average Californians are in for a fleecing.

The $1 billion the Republicans have stripped from the workman's compensation insurance system is an experiment in privatization every bit as reckless as the privatizing of the energy grid, which led Californians to become hostages to the machinations of Enron, Duke, and Reliant energy corporations. The workman's compensation insurance market now will become more volatile because so many Enron-types are going to be gaming the system the net effect will be to raise premiums on businesses doing relatively hazardous work in the state. Why the Republicans do not consider this privatization scheme a "job killer" when they do so when talking about any small tax increase on oil or tobacco is probably because there are "special interests" tied to the GOP that are licking their chops right now about all the money they're going to make off gaming the system.

snip

Lost in all of the anti-tax euphoria that the Howard Jarvis/Grover Norquist/Tea Bagger crowd has imposed on us is the fact that state workers, teachers, and local government employees all provide vital services to the citizens of the state. These draconian budget cuts will hurt the public and the politicians who run both parties are eventually going to hear about it. The next time in a campaign when you hear a Republican talking about how he or she "values" education or any other public good remember what they did to California in 2009. We should also note that all this budget cutting without any serious attempt to raise new revenues works to the disadvantage of the federal policies the Obama Administration designed to lift the nation out of its current economic crisis. The Republicans have won a stunning victory in the most populated state even when all they have to offer us at the national level are "leaders" like Mark Sanford, John Ensign, and Sarah Palin.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:29 AM
Response to Original message
1. Fucking Arnold!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:33 AM
Response to Original message
2. In two years Cali will be further in the toilet and the dems will inherit the mess.
The republican 'take the money and run' method of government is a well tuned machine.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. Jerry Brown will likely be governor again
and he WILL kick some ass, believe me. I've been following him since 1978 and the man means business.

If he says heads are going to roll, believe me they will!

I can hardly wait!

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #6
11. Well, you better tell him not to travel by air between now & then. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. Jerry Brown is the Attorney General right now
and I don't worry about him traveling by air ... well not too much anyway!

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:34 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Oops...Sorry! My bad. eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:35 AM
Response to Original message
3. Explain Something
How do open primaries benefit Republicans more than Democrats?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
4. Sons of bitches!
For gutting education and drilling in SB!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Oil drilling off the Coast won't happen easily, if at all....n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:39 AM
Response to Original message
5. A "Phyrric victory" I would think.
The final nail in the coffin for Republicans in California. But most unpleasant for Californians in the meantime.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. you can bet on that
I know of many many Californians that voted for this asshole. They now regret it.

They are licking their lips and lying in wait for Edmund G. Brown, Jr. to be back in charge again.

Mark my words, California is one of the largest economies in the world and this 5th generation Californian here isn't about to abandon ship.

I lie in wait too.

The gropenfailure has some bad karma waiting on him and I don't give two hoots in hell that he is married to a Kennedy!

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. Ahnuld is likely to ride off into the sunset, but his political career is over.
The Republican party and the whole disfunctional crew we have been saddled with since the 70s, on the other hand, will wind up discredited for good. All the people who are being hurt by this will not forget to vote, or who to vote for, for a long time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Regret.
Ugh, I know so many people who voted for this asshole.
Why? Because it was funny.
Because "politics doesn't really affect our lives", and its hilarious that Schwarzenegger is going to be governor.

Idiots. Total idiots.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 01:25 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. one man I ran into voted for him because he was "real smart"
yep, real smart alright.

I told said man I thought that he was a corrupt idiot and incapable of doing the job.

I thought he was going to hit me he was so pissed off. I wonder what he thinks now if he can indeed think?

:think:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 03:28 PM
Response to Original message
15. another inexorable step toward nationwide riots
eventually citizenry will tire of this stuff happening over and over and over, and our "representatives" will be guests of honor at a weenie roast/necktie party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 04:14 PM
Response to Original message
16. They did it to California.
Now they move on to other states. Their goal is the death of government and the rule of the corporate class.

By giving in for all the humanitarian reasons, Democrats have forestalled the rebellion that is the only thing that will save California.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. a common outcome
in sci-fi and anti-utopian writing. For a good reason it seems...

This will end when voters show up at the polls with "Total Recall".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 05:20 PM
Response to Original message
17. Why is it that Republicans always find a way to obstruct and WIN, while Democrats
always find a way to surrender and LOSE??

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #17
21. because WE should be THEM
*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 08:36 PM
Response to Original message
19. K&R
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:47 PM
Response to Original message
20. Dems should have just let them shut the government down completely
Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 10:48 PM by depakid
Let people deal with it for a while.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 01:40 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC