4 Degrees Celsius Warming by 2060 (Michael Greenwell)

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Michael Greenwell -- World News Trust

Sept. 29, 2009 -- A recent report from the MET office said that global temperatures could rise by 4 degrees celsius by 2060. Were that to happen the results would be countless diasasters, starvation, drought in some areas, flooding in others. In fact, it would be all the catastrophic things we have been hearing about for the last few years.

Richard Betts of the Met Office Hadley Centre described himself as “shocked” that so much warming could occur within the lifetimes of people alive today.

“If greenhouse gas emissions are not cut soon then we could see major climate changes within our own lifetimes,” he said.

“Four degrees of warming averaged over the globe translates into even greater warming in many regions, along with major changes in rainfall.”

The model finds wide variations, with the Arctic possibly seeing a rise of up to 15C (27F) by the end of the century.

Western and southern parts of Africa could warm by up to 10C, with other land areas seeing a rise of 7C or more.

Let’s be clear about this…this report is coming from the MET office – an arm of the British Government. Bizarre then that other sectors of the British government are doing their best to avoid doing anything about it or at least postpone it so it is someone else’s problem.

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http://worldnewstrust.com/flatwire/4-degrees-warming-by-2060.html

[CalvinandHobbes]

1. Is the earth cooling?

http://www.troymedia.com/NewsBeats/Environment_News_Beat/2009/09/TMC092409.htm

Who knows but i don't trust big govt on this one any more than the other big govt plans to tax us into being green.

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2. they seem to ignore science which they accept

Over the last 10 years there has been a lot of new research that is peer reviewed and/or accepted by the IPCC, Hansen, and most scientists (land use, ocean currents, clouds, solar activity, etc). If anything these decrease the effect of CO2 in their models (.2-.4 of the .7 degree increase was likely natural and/or man-made by land use not CO2). At the very least the new research points to the fact that we need more information. I'd be ok if they said "it will probably be worse but the error bars are bigger" but they are saying it's going to be worse and acting like the new research decreases the error bars.

Models have failed for 10 years and they say the reason is that that they don't understand clouds and convection and ocean currents enough for accurate models. But they want us to believe the models are correct about CO2 even though we don't understand the most significant parts of the model (clouds).

The IPCC, Hansen, and others are saying that global warming will "take a rest" for another 5-20 years and we may even cool down. But when it comes back it will be even worse than the predictions from 10 years ago. It's certainly possible but it's also possible that they are ignoring some of the science.