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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:35 PM
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Rahm To Reid: Give Lieberman What He Wants
from Talking Points Memo

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/rahm-to-reid-give-lieberman-what-he-wants.php

and Reid did what he was told

from DailyKOS

Reid Caves: Medicare Buy-in, Public Option Pulled from Senate Bill
by mcjoan
Mon Dec 14, 2009 at 05:00:05 PM PST

With Tom Harkin pre-capitulating, telling TMPDC that "There's enough good in this bill that even without those two, we gotta move," even before the Dem caucus met to decide the way forward, the writing was on the wall. Add Rockefeller, who says he'll vote for the bill even without Medicare buy-in, and it's gone.

A number of sources are reporting that the majority capitulated to Lieberman, who was in attendance in the meeting, cuz, you know, he's with us on everything but the war.

Senators emerging from the special Democratic caucus confirm that the Medicare buy-in proposal will have to be stripped from the Senate bill in order to achieve 60 votes.

So what's out next at Lieberman's demand? The 90% medical loss ratio is destined to be a goner, now that the CBO has concluded that requiring insurance companies to pay 90% of money collected through premiums out in direct medical care would--and this I don't get at all--"make such insurance an essentially governmental program," that's gonna be out.

What's Lieberman's next demand going to be? My guess is Medicaid subsidies have to be removed.

And don't forget that we still have Ben Nelson's abortion demands. Yes, Virginia, this bill can look even worse by the end of the week. And probably will.




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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:39 PM
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1. "There's enough good in this bill that even without those two....
And that would be what????
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:42 PM
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2. these guys flip flop so much it makes a person's head spin

:crazy:
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:46 PM
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6. this is exactly what rahm wants...
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:23 AM
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17. Rahm works for Obama
this is exactly what Obama wants...
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 09:46 AM
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16. The only good in this bill
is if you're a health insurance employee or a health insurance stockholder.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:43 PM
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3. Lieberman's next demand will probably be ABOLISHING Medicare
n/t.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:45 PM
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4. there is no end to his destruction!

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:01 AM
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12. On C Span about a month back, these "Statesmen"
On Baucus commitee werre saying that MediCare reform needs to happen as soon as possible.

And "reform" now means making a program serve industry a gazillion times more than the People.

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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:46 PM
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5. Earth to Rahm
get frelled already.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:47 PM
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7. Dont know what frelled means but I like the sound of it.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 09:56 PM
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9. After some googling.....I am more familiar with Fraked..
I only saw a few Farscape episodes.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-14-09 08:55 PM
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8. Barack to Rahm: Tell Reid to give Lieberman what he wants
more likely.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:24 AM
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10. Wait.
Edited on Tue Dec-15-09 03:25 AM by Chulanowa
We have two different stories, both referring back to the now-debunked politico article, and the claim that this means two independent sources are making the same claim?

Fucking idiotic.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 03:29 AM
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11. roguevalley to rahm and reid: eat shit and die
huffingtonpost has a list of comments from people who are asked, what do you think Lieberman should get for Hannukah?

My favorite replies:

The 2009 Dr, Mengele Award for Humanitarian Intervention.

A one way ticket to the "settlement" of his choice with no right of return.

200 hours of chemotherapy to cure him from being a cancer

A gauntlet line
An invoice for all the paychecks he has received from the taxpayer that he has not earned. (Since 2000 when he became dissed at the country after Bush became President) He can use the money the Health Care Industry is paying him to pay it back for destroying people's lives and futures.

A personality.

"What Would You Give Joe Lieberman For Hanukkah?"

My healthcare plan.

erectile dysfunction and no health insurance

A shovel so he can get started digging those 45,000 graves in 2010 as a result of his arrogance and obnoxiousness on health care reform.

- Tom

I would boot him out of office! Oh, wait...that would be MY present!

A soul.

Bupkas!

i'm going to have to reserve comment. i'd be HUFFbanned for life.

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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 04:38 AM
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13. Comments on the site are hilarious and oh so true
Dems already gave him the whole USofA by way of Homeland Security Chairmanship. He wants more. He wants Mr Reid's job. Heck, why stop there? He may want Mr Obama's job.

Yeah Reid may be defeated in 2010 and they can slip Lieberman into his job. Of course, they won't be the majority party by then so maybe Lieberman will defect.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 05:28 AM
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14. It starts with the POTUS when will people start holding him accountable?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 07:50 AM
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15. It's Becoming a Running Joke, this Health Care Reform
but it isn't funny, no matter how many variations on the theme are divised.
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potone Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 01:17 PM
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18. I don't recall voting for Rahm.
I certainly didn't vote for Lieberman, who is not even a Democrat. I am so angry at what is happening to this bill that I could scream. This is a once in a generation chance to fix our broken health care system, and the Democrats could do it by abolishing the filibuster or probably just by telling Lieberman that he will be stripped of his chairmanship if he continues to obstruct progress.
Could somebody please tell me why these people are so spineless???!!!:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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