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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:56 AM
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CNN opinion piece "Same-sex marriage will hurt families, society"
Ugh.

CNN) -- The institution of marriage is unique. It is the one institution that binds women and men together to form a family, and this serves broad societal purposes.

In California, a U.S. District Court Judge last week overturned Proposition 8, the California Marriage Protection Act. It was passed in November 2008 by California voters to recognize "only marriage between a man and a woman."

The majority of Californians, including two-thirds of the state's black voters, have just had their core civil right -- the right to vote -- stripped from them by an openly gay federal judge who has misread history and the Constitution to impose his views on the state's people.

The implicit comparison Judge Vaughn Walker made between racism and opposition to same-sex marriage is particularly offensive to me and to all who remember the reality of Jim Crow. It is not bigotry, it is biology that discriminates between same-sex couples and opposite-sex couples.


And meanwhile, opposite sex marriage has such a :sarcasm: stellar track record! :sarcasm:

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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:58 AM
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1. Blah, blah, blah...what a crock.
Get your religion out of my govt.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 11:00 AM
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2. Oh bullshit. The judge looked at the evidence, and he drew the right conclusion.
All this fearmongering is just proof that the gay-bashers have no facts.
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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 11:01 AM
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3. The bible is not the Constitution
nt
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 11:03 AM
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4. These dim motherfuckers always seem to think that gay folk are 'brand new'.
We've been raising children one way or another since for
Ever.

We're just less likely to wake up
Next to straight spouses now.

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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 11:03 AM
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5. Well, f$ck CNN.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 11:13 AM
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6. I don't think binding straight men and women together
is all it's cracked up to be. I'm of the same opinion as Katherine Hepburn, "Sometimes I wonder if men and women really suit each other. Perhaps they should live next door and just visit now and then."

I can't think of a single straight marriage I've envied although I've known many that have lasted for decades.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 11:16 AM
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7. More CNN suckage.
No surprise.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 11:18 AM
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8. If marriage was such a sacred institution then why...
Was it used for economic reasons?
Was it not considered a sacrament until St Paul?
Was romance part of the equation until the medieval times?
Was consent not required until the 800s?
Were so many marriages taking place without witnesses or a ceremony until the 1500s and a requirement of the Church that 2 witnesses and a priest was required?

It wasn't until 1753 that common law or clandestine marriages were abolished in England. That common law marriages were permitted in the American Colonies despite being abolished in England.


If marriage is considered to be a religious institution then why did Ancient Greece have non-religious form of marriages? Why did Roman society even before Jesus have several types of marriages?
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 11:47 AM
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9. Of course it is another 'minister' slandering his neighbors
bearing false witness, and making baseless demands that others join in his own hate filled delusions. These people with the hubris to claim to speak for God are what they have always been throughout all history, and conveniently, even Jesus taught how to spot them, and pointed out their constant self interest and lack of ethics. Gossips and backbiters, money changers and vipers, they were such then, and they remain such today.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 12:10 PM
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10. So if a majority voted to deny marriage rights to Republicans...
Edited on Sun Aug-08-10 12:11 PM by JaneQPublic
...then a juge should not strip away those citizens' core civil right to vote by overturning their vote?

Equally wobbly is his reasoning that it is biology, not bigotry, that discriminates against same-sex couples. If the inability to procreate biologically should disqualify a couple for getting married, then opposite-sex couples should also be barred from marriage if one or both are incapable of creating a baby (due to sterility, hysterectomy, vasectomy, etc.)
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 12:18 PM
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11. And of course the proof he has for his opinion comes from the bible. He makes other
claims, but provides no references to back them up. This type of argument seems to be common when a moral judgment is being made.
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 12:34 PM
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12. Well, the writer is a 'bishop' so you KNOW he must have some clout, right?
Bishop Harry R. Jackson Jr. is senior pastor of Hope Christian Church in Beltsville, Maryland, and founder and Chairman of the High Impact Leadership Coalition (HILC). He shares his thoughts on traditional marriage in "The Black Pulpit," a weekly series of opinion pieces that explores faith in the black community. CNN's "Black in America: Churched" premieres October 14.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 12:48 PM
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13. Just takin a wild leap here, but I'd guess the guys and the gals are gonna get together
to make babies and have families, regardless

When the little bluebird who has never said a word
starts to sing "Spring, spring"
When the little bluebell in the bottom of the dell
starts to ring "Ding, ding"
When the little blue clerk in the middle of his work
starts a tune to the moon up above
it is nature, that's all, simply telling us to fall in love

And that's why birds do it, bees do it, even educated fleas do it
Let's do it, let's fall in love ...

Romantic sponges, they say, do it; oysters, down in Oyster Bay, do it
Let's do it, let's fall in love
Cold Cape Cod clams, gainst their wish, do it; even lazy jellyfish do it
Let's do it, let's fall in love
Electric eels, I might add, do it, though it shocks 'em, I know ...

The dragonflies, in the reeds, do it; sentimental centipedes do it
Let's do it, let's fall in love ...

The chimpanzees, in the zoos, do it; some courageous kangaroos do it
Let's do it, let's fall in love
I'm sure giraffes, on the sly, do it; heavy hippopotami do it
Let's do it, let's fall in love ...


Let's do it, let's fall in love (1928)
Music and Lyrics – Cole Porter
http://www.wicn.org/song-week/%E2%80%9Clet%E2%80%99s-do-it-let%E2%80%99s-fall-in-love%E2%80%9D-1928
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 01:26 PM
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14. Ah yes the sanctity of marriage....
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 03:41 PM
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15. I'd rather go for this kind of wedding
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 03:46 PM
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16. His Basic Complaint, Sir, is Interesting
The greatest harm he sees flowing from allowing marriage between persons of the same gender is that, when people like him teach their children that is wrong, the institutions of the state and the mores of society will not back him up, and that, further, if he and others like him wish to act in a manner that disadvantages people who are not heterosexual, they may find themselves charged with a crime, or otherwise prevented by law from doing so.

So in other words, his complaint is that allowing persons of the same gender to marry one another will make it harder for him to raise little bigots to take his place when the worms are at his carcass, and make it harder for him to effect harm against the persons he feels bigoted hatred towards.

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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 06:06 PM
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17. Honey, walk a mile in my pumps before you.....
take too much offence at "The implicit comparison Judge Vaughn Walker made between racism and opposition to same-sex marriage is particularly offensive to me"

Fuck you.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-08-10 10:13 PM
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18. CNN suborning lies again
What else is new.
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