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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:52 AM
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EDITORIAL: Democrats: Voters are dumb
Missouri's overwhelming rejection of Obamacare made it clear Americans will resist the federal government's power grab, but Democrats aren't getting the message. Despite being a middle-of-the-road swing state, an overwhelming 71 percent of Missourians voted against federal mandates over their personal health care choices. Ignoring the clarity of this protest, top Democrats maintain that the problem lies with American voters, who aren't smart enough to know what's good for them.

On Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, chimed, "It's very obvious that people have a lack of understanding of our health care reform bill." Facing a revolt in her own home state, Sen. Claire McCaskill, Missouri Democrat, agreed it's largely just a misunderstanding. "I know that there is a lot of work that we need to do on not just the provisions of the law," she said, "but most importantly make sure that everyone knows what


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/5/democrats-voters-are-dumb/
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 12:32 PM
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1. EDITORIAL: complete bullshit
The health care legislation is not a "power grab" and it does not impose "federal mandates over their personal health care choices" except that it mandates that people HAVE health insurance.
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Phil The Cat Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 02:23 AM
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15. People should not NEED Health Insurance
It should just be that when you are sick, you go to the doctor or hospital as approprite!

They shouldn't have to worry about co-pays and deductables, or paying premiums, or signing up for all the confusing junk!

By following "Distribution By Need, not Production For Greed", so there is no need for profit, people would have food, shelter, clothing, health care, and some entertainment!

But Vicodin-loving Lim-blob and his nut job fat cat cronies won't have money and power! Too bad, morans!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 01:07 PM
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2. Well. When there's a Dozen States that Follow Suit, Will That Be a Message?
Or will that many people who can read and reason and add be "misguided", too?

Don't try to sell me shit and call it shinola, or breakfast, or anything but what it is.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 02:36 PM
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3. You can call sh*t chocolate, but it's
still sh*t.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 05:01 PM
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5. Gee
funny, some people liked mandates back when Hillary had the idea. However, keep in mind, these blue dogs would be just as vocal about opposing single payer, as they would say it infringes on their rights.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:23 AM
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24. Isn't it strange how that happened?
:shrug:
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iowasocialist Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 04:49 PM
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4. Dumb?
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 04:51 PM by iowasocialist
Don't they know there is a difference between ignorance, and stupidity?

The senators were talking about ignorance regarding the health care bill, which should not be insulting to people.

But, as Senator McCaskill implied, the Democrats have not done the job in talking to the American people about the benefits of this bill (Yes, it could have been a much better bill, by the way).

The Democrats in general do a poor job of communicating with the American people. The president's nice speeches are not enough. The GOP is much better at framing issues and putting issues out on the table.

Where is our Frank Luntz?
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Kweli4Real Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 05:22 PM
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6. Where is our Frank Luntz?
All we have to do is pony up enough for his fee and Frank Luntz can be our Frank Luntz. In the end, he is an amoral mercenary ... a gun for hire.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 08:16 PM
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7. We have several, but the Democratic "leadership" won't listen to them
Indeed, Obama's followers will put them down and scoff at them whenever articles are posted with strategies and tactics based on their research.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:14 PM
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10. "Obama's followers?"
The man happens to be the President of the United States - not a Grateful Dead cover band.

He has supporters, not "followers".
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:20 PM
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11. +1000
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:15 AM
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19. Obama's followers? Why don't you just come out and say what you mean depakid?
You aren't fooling anybody.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:54 PM
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8. What's next? An "editorial" from Newsmax? WorldNetDaily?
n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:04 PM
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9. Biting social commentary from Elmer Fudd
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:53 PM
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13. .....
:rofl:

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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:21 AM
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21. .
:rofl:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:12 PM
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29. Stormfront may be next
Nothing shocks me at this point.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:43 PM
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12. The Moonie Washington Times?
Those rwwhack jobs have nothing but propaganda against Democrats ..reeks of desperation.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 09:09 AM
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17. The avatar may indicate that emilyg is still nursing wounds from
the Summer of 08.

IMO Posting from Moonies, newsbusters, reasonrag, etc. should be verboten here.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:48 AM
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14. Why are you posting right-wing garbage on DU? n/t
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:32 AM
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25. It belongs on Free Republic or Tree Republic
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:42 AM
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16. Moony Times?
Bad smear news day?
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:14 AM
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18. The Moonie Times? Really?
It's come to this for the Obama bashers?

How pathetic.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:22 AM
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22. Yep. Totally. nt
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:17 AM
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20. I can't stop laughing. Really. I'm picturing a bald guy handing this out in an airport in a tract.
With a flower, no less. :rofl:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:23 AM
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23. PUMAs often agree with the Moonie Times on our first black President,. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:08 PM
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 03:17 PM
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27. Yeah...what the hell is up with that?
Now a Washington Times editorial bashing Democrats is appropriate for Democratic Underground?

Media Matters just issued a story on the Washington Times. It's clear the Washington Times is a Reich-wing rag, and why it's propaganda is allowed on a site called DEMOCRATIC Underground beats me!
http://mediamatters.org/research/201008090068
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:02 PM
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31.  Well, well, well, ..Look who's attacking Hillary, Obama & the Democratic Principles!!
"Wash. Times editorial board attacks the "homosexual agenda""

<snip from your link>

"Wash. Times criticized Hillary Clinton for working "diligently to further the homosexual agenda in the State Department." In a July 15 editorial, the Times purported to illuminate what they described as the Obama administration's "homosexual-Muslim conflict," writing that "ventually, the Obama administration might have to decide to which radical group it's most important to pander: homosexuals or Muslims." The Times also criticized Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for supposedly "work diligently to further the homosexual agenda in the State Department," and claimed that "despite widespread opposition to homosexual 'marriage' here at home, the U.S. government is pressuring foreign governments to officially recognize homosexual unions abroad."

Wash. Times attacked Obama White House for "actively attacking the foundations of the traditional family to cater to a handful of extremists." A July 27 editorial attacked what the Times deemed "Obama's assault on marriage." The Times criticized a regulation that would "provide long-term care insurance to the 'domestic partners' of all federal employees as if they were partners in true wedlock." The Times suggested that if an estimateby the Congressional Budget Office that "one-third of 1 percent of federal employees would register as domestic partners" was accurate, that means that "the White House is actively attacking the foundations of the traditional family to cater to a handful of extremists."

Fookin' moonie times.
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:05 PM
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28. ...

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Do not post "flame bait" discussion topics. While there is no clear line regarding what constitutes flame bait, the moderators have the authority to shut down threads which they consider too rhetorically hot, too divisive, too extreme, or too inflammatory.

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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:04 PM
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32. More Washington Times editorials for your reading pleasure:
Here's some of what they say about the "homosexual agenda," courtesy of Media Matters:

Comparing Prop. 8 judge to Emperor Nero just the latest in Wash. Times' anti-gay assault
The Washington Times has an extensive history of promoting anti-gay smears, falsehoods, and distortions. In the latest example, the Times compared Judge Vaughn Walker, who found California's Proposition 8 unconstitutional, to "brutal" Roman Emperor Nero, writing that Nero, "like Judge Vaughn, wanted the community to embrace his unnatural way of life."
http://mediamatters.org/research/201008090068

Wash. Times criticized Hillary Clinton for working "diligently to further the homosexual agenda in the State Department."
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2010%2Fjul%2F15%2Fobamas-homosexual-muslim-conflict%2F

Wash. Times attacked Obama White House for "actively attacking the foundations of the traditional family to cater to a handful of extremists."
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2010%2Fjul%2F27%2Fobamas-assault-on-marriage%2F

Wash. Times claimed that "radical leftists" in the Obama administration are working to "reshape conceptions of the family."
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2010%2Fjun%2F30%2Fobamas-war-on-the-traditional-family%2F

Wash. Times warned of a possible gay "assault upon traditional norms and values."
(The Washington Times, 7/25/01, retrieved from the Nexis database)

Wash. Times lauded Boy Scouts of America for refusal "to bend to passing fancy, i.e. the embrace of open homosexuality."
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.cnn.com%2F2000%2FLAW%2F06%2F28%2Fscotus.gay.boyscouts%2F

Wash. Times praised Boy Scouts as "one of the last remaining bastions of American culture that has not bowed to the gay agenda."
(The Washington Times, 6/30/00, from Nexis)

Wash. Times claimed promoters of purported "gay agenda" were using military issue to force "public support of the gay lifestyle."
(The Washington Times, 3/21/93, from Nexis)

Wash. Times op-ed writer emphasized supposed risk of assaults, misconduct posed by allowing open military service by gay men and lesbians.
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2010%2Ffeb%2F01%2Fdanger-to-discipline%2F

Wash. Times falsely suggested children raised by two heterosexual parents "perform better" than those raise by gay or lesbian parents.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910290021

Wash. Times editorial: "Discrimination is necessary."
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2010%2Fapr%2F23%2Fdiscrimination-is-necessary%2F

Wash. Times claims Kagan memo on same-sex marriage puts her "to the left of legal and moral tradition."
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2010%2Fjun%2F8%2Fkagans-full-faith-in-same-sex-marriage%2F

Wash. Times falsely claimed GLSEN "allowed bar guides to be handed out to high school students."
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtontimes.com%2Fnews%2F2009%2Fdec%2F11%2Fcruising-gay-bars-with-the-safe-schools-7926662%2F

MUCH MORE HERE:
http://mediamatters.org/research/201008090068

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:17 PM
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33. The moonie times is against Gays & Obama Admin and yet..
..and yet..here they are on DU in all their rwhack bullshit, propaganda glory.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 08:33 PM
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30. Isn't this the parlor trick that a GOP operative admitted was used to GOTV?
Steve Benen had an item on this recently. A Republican operative literally admitted it was a gimmick to turn out voters for the Republican primary.
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