New CIA Interrogation Tapes Hint at Legal 'Loophole' Allowing the US to Outsource Torture

[maddezmom]

The CIA has produced new video-tapes showing the interrogations of Guantánamo Bay prisoner Ramzi bin al-Shibh while he was being held at a secret CIA prison in Morocco in 2002. The stash of tapes - found under a desk at the CIA's counter-terrorism office - reveal that there is more evidence of the CIA's torture programme than has previously been admitted, and hint at the central role played by Morocco in the secret prison system .

Worryingly for President Obama, the tapes indicate that the CIA's arrangement with Morocco most likely falls outside the scope of his swathe of 2009 executive orders, intended to curb the worst of the agency's detention practices. The orders forbade the CIA from torturing prisoners or running secret prisons abroad. Yet while the secret facility in which bin al-Shibh was interrogated was officially run by Moroccans, with Moroccan agents carrying out the torture, it was largely financed by the CIA - who could move prisoners in and out at will, oversee interrogations and provide questions they wanted asked. Such shadowy arrangements may be slipping beneath the radar even now.

This set-up rings bells here in the UK because it is very much like that used for the detention and torture in Morocco of various British prisoners, including Binyam Mohamed, who suffered medieval abuse at the hands of his Moroccan torturers. We have known for years that British personnel were regulars in US military prisons such as Guantánamo Bay and Bagram Airforce Base. But if the British are found to have been taking advantage of a CIA-run facility in Morocco, it would raise difficult questions for the UK. It would bring to light British knowledge of the CIA prisons and interrogation practices worldwide, something that has always been denied.

The release of the CIA tapes comes days after reports that other prisoners, including Abu Zubaydah, were taken for CIA detention in Morocco in early 2004. Abu Zubaydah was the first official guinea-pig for the unlawful interrogation techniques developed by the CIA for its 'high-value detainee' programme, including the "facial slap", "cramped confinement", "stress positions" and "the waterboard" (as outlined in this memo). The Assistant Attorney General at the time, Jay Bybee, advised CIA lawyers that these techniques could be legally practised by American agents. However, Morocco's central role in the programme meant that even more brutal methods could be employed at the CIA's behest, methods that undoubtedly amounted to unlawful torture even by the Bush administration's accommodating standards.

more:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/clara-gutteridge/new-cia-interrogation-tap_b_686897.html

[seafan]

1. There were reports about this from 2007. The handiwork of Richard B. Cheney.

New CIA Interrogation Tapes Hint at Legal 'Loophole' Allowing the US to Outsource Torture, August 18, 2010



2007: 'CIA outsourced waterboarding/enhanced interrogation to private contractors'


Interesting that just yesterday, we heard that Blackwater founder Erik Prince has just fled to Abu Dhabi to live.




I wrote in late 2007 about my suspicions about Blackwater:

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Blackwater was performing *the interrogations*.

I have recently read that Eric Prince, head of Blackwater, has VERY close ties with the CIA and has special clearance to enter the CIA buildings.


The only reason I can come up with, as to why the CIA videotaped, in the first place, ANY of these torture methods being used to gain information from detainees, would be because they (CIA) were actually NOT the entity that committed the acts... to cover their a$$e$ if somehow, they (CIA) were implicated in these illegal methods. This has now come about. The CIA could exonerate themselves if they had proof that an outside corporation actually performed the torture.



If this has actually happened, and Blackwater is involved in the torture of detainees and is on videotape, the only way to protect the crown jewel Blackwater is for the CIA to destroy the tapes and take the heat. Seems plausible that Blackwater is *the army of the CIA*.


But, then, this is all my surmising.

Will our war criminals ever face justice?


We will not heal as a country until that happens.

[midnight]

2. Loop holes and outsourcing what a crock. The damage is

done.

[JJ Walker]

3. Proxies

It's the way it's done these days.