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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:08 AM
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Surprise, Homeland Security Coordinates #OWS Crackdowns
Link: http://wonkette.com/456282/surprise-homeland-security-coordinates-ows-crackdowns-nationwide

Remember when people were freaking out over the Patriot Act and Homeland Security and all this other conveniently ready-to-go post-9/11 police state stuff, because it would obviously be just a matter of time before the whole apparatus was turned against non-Muslim Americans when they started getting complain-y about the social injustice and economic injustice and income inequality and endless recession and permanent unemployment? That day is now, and has been for some time. But it’s also now confirmed that it’s now, as some Justice Department official screwed up and admitted that the Department of Homeland Security coordinated the riot-cop raids on a dozen major #Occupy Wall Street demonstration camps nationwide yesterday and today. (Oh, and tonight, too: Seattle is being busted up by the riot cops right now, so be careful out there.)

Rick Ellis of the Minneapolis edition of Examiner.com has this, based on a “background conversation” he had with a Justice Department official on Monday night:

Over the past ten days, more than a dozen cities have moved to evict “Occupy” protesters from city parks and other public spaces. As was the case in last night’s move in New York City, each of the police actions shares a number of characteristics. And according to one Justice official, each of those actions was coordinated with help from Homeland Security, the FBI and other federal police agencies.

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According to this official, in several recent conference calls and briefings, local police agencies were advised to seek a legal reason to evict residents of tent cities, focusing on zoning laws and existing curfew rules. Agencies were also advised to demonstrate a massive show of police force, including large numbers in riot gear. In particular, the FBI reportedly advised on press relations, with one presentation suggesting that any moves to evict protesters be coordinated for a time when the press was the least likely to be present.

More at link.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:14 AM
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1. I always knew this would go back to hurt Obama and Democrats.
Now we've turned our guys into bad guys.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 11:12 AM
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:31 PM
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10. The premise of the posted article is false, per Daily Kos: DHS is *NOT* coordinating anything.
This entire claim is based on unsourced anonymous claims by a single blogger with no reputation.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/15/1036770/-BREAKING!-Homeland-Security-is-NOT-coordinating-Occupy-Crackdown!
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:35 PM
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11. Gotcha chief...
:eyes:
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:36 PM
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12. using unsourced anonymous claims by a single blogger with no reputation..
to debunk unsourced anonymous claims by a single blogger with no reputation. the ironing is delicious.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:44 PM
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13. Ironing?
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:52 PM
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14. ..
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:23 AM
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2. Well...I guess it
was just a matter of time before Homeland Security attacked its own citizens...the 99%. But this really takes it up to an entirely new level.

I don't see how this harms Obama in any way. He has distanced himself from this and is headed to Australia. Bloomberg looks very Soviet Union-ish.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:26 AM
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3. Does Homeland Security operate completely independent of the administration?
If so, that seems a bit scary in it's own right.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 11:13 AM
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6. if it is a bad thing obama has no power to stop it
if its a good thing no one else did anything to achieve it
magical thinking at it best
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 05:04 PM
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18. Isn't it a
Cabinet....like Energy? Isn't that what W did? I'm not sure...sorry.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 10:30 AM
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4. Napolitano needs to be fired
and this "department" needs to be dismantled.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 11:24 AM
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7. I hope this turns into a lot of lawsuits. I'd like to see the feds defend the "constitutionality"
of their actions.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:15 PM
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8. Odds are they will find a court that "sees" things as they do. nt
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 02:38 PM
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15. By the time all this would work itself through the court system;
It would not matter, somewhat like the Bush and Chencey 'Free Speech Zones.'
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 12:28 PM
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9. The feds haven't changed since the 60s when the FBI was going after Martin Luther King.
You can bet on one thing, if and when the Occupy Movement selects a strong leader(s), said leader (s) can expect their phones to be tapped and any potential dirt to be exposed by the Department of the Fatherland and/or FBI via the corporate media.



According to this official, in several recent conference calls and briefings, local police agencies were advised to seek a legal reason to evict residents of tent cities, focusing on zoning laws and existing curfew rules. Agencies were also advised to demonstrate a massive show of police force, including large numbers in riot gear. In particular, the FBI reportedly advised on press relations, with one presentation suggesting that any moves to evict protesters be coordinated for a time when the press was the least likely to be present.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_luther_king

Having concluded that King was dangerous due to communist infiltration, the FBI shifted to attempting to discredit King through revelations regarding his private life. FBI surveillance of King, some of it since made public, attempted to demonstrate that he also engaged in numerous extramarital affairs.<164> Lyndon Johnson once said that King was a "hypocritical preacher".<167> Ralph Abernathy, a close associate of King's, stated in his 1989 autobiography And the Walls Came Tumbling Down that King had a "weakness for women".<168><169> King's biographer David Garrow wrote about a number of extramarital affairs, including one woman King saw almost daily. According to Garrow, "that relationship, rather than his marriage, increasingly became the emotional centerpiece of King's life, but it did not eliminate the incidental couplings...of King's travels." King explained his extramarital affairs as "a form of anxiety reduction." Garrow noted that King's promiscuity was the cause of "painful and overwhelming guilt".<170>

The FBI distributed reports regarding such affairs to the executive branch, friendly reporters, potential coalition partners and funding sources of the SCLC, and King's family.<171> The Bureau also sent anonymous letters to King threatening to reveal information if he did not cease his civil rights work.<172> One anonymous letter sent to King just before he received the Nobel Peace Prize read, in part, "The American public, the church organizations that have been helping—Protestants, Catholics and Jews will know you for what you are—an evil beast. So will others who have backed you. You are done. King, there is only one thing left for you to do. You know what it is. You have just 34 days in which to do (this exact number has been selected for a specific reason, it has definite practical significant ). You are done. There is but one way out for you. You better take it before your filthy fraudulent self is bared to the nation."<173> King interpreted this as encouragement for him to commit suicide,<174> although William Sullivan, head of the Domestic Intelligence Division at the time, argued that it may have only been intended to "convince Dr. King to resign from the SCLC."<160> King refused to give in to the FBI's threats.<175>



They won't take them on directly via the issues of contention but they will use all possible means; whether legal, smear or otherwise to take them down, and the vast majority of the corporate media will go along for the ride.

Then twenty years after the dirty deed, said leader will be sanctified as the corporate supermacists attempt to coopt the movement, rinse and repeat.

Thanks for the thread, NorthCarolina.

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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:59 PM
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17. It's always a smear campaign. You can easily see it here daily by the GD:P regulars
Attacking anything/anyone that smells of "Liberal", or that dares speak in opposition to the administration, such as Michael Moore, Jane Hamshire and FDL, Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kucinich, Alan Grayson, and on, and on, and on.
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creon Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 04:28 PM
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16. No proof.
Unsubstantiated rumor
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 06:32 PM
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19. Never forget Obama is no liberal. He is an old fashioned
Republican.

Don't look for him to help the commoners.

The is the man who is so not liberal that he willingly said where the whole world could hear that he thinks Lincoln keeping slavery in the north was a superb political decision.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-11 07:17 PM
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20. the NYPD is now a major artery of the DHS
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