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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:01 PM
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A mother's e-mail on her daughter's incarceration during RNC convention
Has anyone else seen this e-mail from a mother
whose daughter was imprisoned during RNC convention?
Came via the "Digger" discussion board through Action LA site?
I would imagine some investigate journalists may be
doing a story on what happened in NY...

e-mail:

My 21-year old daughter disappeared from NYC last Tuesday afternoon when walking with friends through a park where no protest was being held – and was held prisoner -- without being charged- by the NYPD for three days. Thefirst day and night she spent in an unsafe and inhumane facility at Pier 57 ("Little Guantanamo") provided by the Republican Party. Yes, it was managed by the Republican National Committee. It was leased by the RNC to hold political dissenters who disagreed with the Bush administration. The second two days, my daughter was in a city jail in Manhattan, where her treatment improved. She practices Buddhist precepts of compassion (she told the NYPD officers that she knew they must be tired and overworked also, and she did not resist arrest). She is a graduate student in Poli-Sci at the University of Hawaii and is a Mortar Board honor society/service club member. The notorious Pier 57 (owned by the Hudson River Trust--a city/state consortium) was dubbed "Little Guantanamo" by reporters who also got caught up in police sweeps and who said it looked like the Guantanamo Bay prison
built by the USA to hold the Al Qaeda terrorist political prisoners in Cuba. Pier 57 was leased by the RNC before their convention. They
arranged for the NYPD to put up the chain link holding pens with razor wire on top in the old Pier 57 warehouse that had oil, gas and asbestos dust on the floor from a previous fire.

My heart was in my throat when I got a call from one of my daughter's
friends on Oahu who told me she had been arrested and taken to Little
Guantanamo. I looked it up on the internet and fear crept into me. I
called my daughter's cell phone over and over ("it's mom, where ARE you, call me"). She didn't answer. Only hours before, she had been calling us with joy, telling us of the peaceful protests and beautiful march. But now, nothing. I had nightmarish visions of a fire sweeping over the combustible floor with hundreds -- nearly a thousand -- trapped in the chain link pens, razor wire on the top of the pens making escape impossible. My husband called the NYPD to ask who had issued a Certificate of Occupancy or Fire Safety Inspection
Certificate and who was managing Pier 57. He was given the number for the Republican National Committee. Yes. My husband and I looked at each other in silent, cold horror. In America? The Republicans have set up a private detention camp for their political prisoners that can hold 1000 under inhumane and unsafe conditions!? My husband slowly dialed that number, got the RNC, and the Republican rep who answered the phone said, in answer to my husbands' inquiries about safety: "those protesters don't deserve a Holiday Inn, and they're all criminals anyway!" ....Say what?! My daughter, who doesn't smoke or drink or do drugs and is a practicing Buddhist Vegan? A criminal?

Warning signs that reporters saw posted around Pier 57 said not to enter without protective clothing and mask. My exhausted daughter, with hundreds of others, tried to sleep that first night ...on the chemical-covered oily, cold cement floor of these pens, without food or water, without being read her rights, without being offered a chance to post bail, without seeing a judge although the National Lawyers Guild offered to represent them pro bono, without being charged or told why she was arrested and handcuffed and taken there, without being allowed to make a call to a lawyer or friend or parent or anyone -- all cell phones were confiscated as "terrorist weapons." Her purse was taken. She had nothing but the clothes on her back. Meanwhile... ordinary criminals arrested that same day in NYC for burglary, rape and heinous crimes were processed by the courts in less than 10 hours.

My daughter, who had committed no crime, was incarcerated for three days incommunicado. People suffered chemical burns, bug bites, overcrowding and medical problems because their medicine was confiscated. A pregnant woman sat crying on the floor in the oil. It wasn't until my daughter was taken out of the Republican-managed "Little Guantanamo" and placed in a cell in a Manhattan city jail that a guard kindly brought her Vegan food and gave her a blanket
to lay her grime-smeared body on at night in her crowded cell. I never
thought I'd be grateful to get a call from a friend saying that my
daughter was in a Manhattan city jail cell, but the knowledge that she was out of that Little Guantanamo actually gave me relief.

I called Hawaii's Republican Party Headquarters, and asked them to report it to Hawaii's Governor Linda Lingle, who was at the convention in NYC and could intervene for my daughter and other UH students incarcerated illegally by her party. The Republican rep woman who answered the phone told me "Linda knows, and you're blowing it all out of proportion." Say What!! That's MY daughter, not YOURS, sitting in that instant-conflagration-fire-trap at Pier 57! Well, thanks a BUNCH, Linda Lingle. The UH students mean that LITTLE to you??? The Republicans wanted to "teach those protesters a lesson." They wanted to terrorize my daughter. But the lesson that the hundreds and hundreds of prisoners were taught... was not the one that the Republican Party intended, I would wager. My daughter had gone to NYC to walk in the peaceful protest of 500K people the day before the Republican National Convention began.

She was not engaged in protest at the time of her arrest. She had been walking with friends near a park. There was no protest in action when they were arrested along with tourists and city employees going to work. Anyone caught in the NYPD orange fence netting was told to sit on the ground, handcuffed, and pushed into large NYC busses. Our sweet daughter, born and brought up in a small rainforest in Hawaii, was placed in detention at Pier 57, the notorious "Little Guantanamo."

I recall that when the Democrats held their convention to nominate
Senator John Kerry as their candidate for President, there were only 6 people arrested, if I remember correctly. At the Republican National Convention to elect Bush as their candidate, there were thousands arrested. I suspect that Republicans might say this was a good thing. Being tough. This group-roundup tactic is called by the Republican party "preventative detention" (like the "pre-emptive war" in Iraq). It is used to terrorize those who might protest Bush's agenda when he is in town. America, wake up.

Hitler told the German people that they would have to "give up a few of your rights ...temporarily...so that we can fight the enemy." That's what Ashcroft said, about the misnamed PATRIOT ACT. Wake up, America. The American flag that proudly waves by MY front gate and is on the back window of MY car...doesn't seem to be the same American flag that the Republican Party is waving. --

Erin Starr
Makawao, Maui, Hawaii

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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:07 PM
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1. A prison "leased" by the RNC and American citizens held there by NYPD?
I can't imagine even our media could ignore a story like that.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:11 PM
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4. seems the "media" has not covered this much...
Maybe it means interviewing a lot of the incarcerated.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 01:59 PM
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13. Has Ashcroft privatized the "Patriot Act"? It sure sounds like it.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:22 AM
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26. What media? In Imperial Amerika??? You HAVE to be joking
The only thing our Pravda Whores are adept at is finding the nearest gym for their afternoon workouts.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:12 PM
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5. If it's true and it makes bushtard look Bad..
then you better believe it will be IGNORED!
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 09:58 AM
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25. I've done some checking...
the part about Pier 57 being leased by the RNC does not seem provable.

My guess is that the RNC provided money to the city for this purpose, but I'm not sure that the RNC picked the building!
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:11 PM
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2. That's your Patriot Act at work. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:11 PM
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3. Freakin' Wow! I was just talking to my son in
Hawaii today ..and telling him about the 250 bicycle protesters who were arrested in NYC at the rnc convention.

I had no idea this was going on! Thank you for this.

I'm interested in anything lingle because when I move back to Hawaii in a couple of years..I want her gone or on her way out.

This poor woman and her terror at realizing her daughter has been arrested by the bush cabal. Oh, that they will, too, soon be Gone.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:17 PM
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6. But don't forget - * is a uniter, not a divider! What a joke....
Thanks for posting this enlightening email - though it makes things worse than I thought possible (in terms of absolute control by the Repugs)....hopefully media somewhere will pick this and stories like it up...
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:44 PM
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7. Remember what Linda knew come re-election time.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:48 PM
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8. Are there any links to verify this account?
If this is true, if I were that or any other parent with a minor child, or if I were a protestor, I would sue their asses off.

I would work with every other arrested protestor and parent of a minor child who was arrested to make this the highest profile case I could. I would be in the face of every media outlet available in the U.S. and I would also contact reporters in Canada, the UK and Australia.

I'm sure there is a high profile lawyer who would be willing to take this one on, and the ACLU would obviously be interested, including some of their newest members, Bob Barr and Dick Armey.

That said, if this did happen, surely there are sources that can be cited, such as Democracy Now. Sorry if I missed them before.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 10:53 PM
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9. Yes. Here's one from the Christian Science Monitor
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-06-04 11:02 PM
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10. And a better one from the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57531-2004Sep2.html

"A criminal court judge ordered the release of hundreds of Bush protesters Thursday, ruling that police held them illegally without charges for more than 40 hours. As the protesters began trickling out of jail, they spoke of being held without access to lawyers, initially in a holding cell that had oil and grease spread across the floor.

Several dozen of those detained said that they had not taken part in protests. Police apparently swept up the CEO of a puppet theater as he and a friend walked out of the subway to celebrate his birthday. Two middle-age women who had been shopping at the Gap were handcuffed, and a young woman was arrested as she returned from her job at a New York publishing house. "
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:32 AM
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11. If you were incarcerated, go to this website
Edited on Tue Sep-07-04 08:37 AM by realFedUp
http://www.counterconvention.org/

you'll find contact numbers.
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Green Lantern Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 08:40 PM
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14. Right
Who the hell gave the RP police powers of detention?

What are the NY state prison facility guidelines for safety, health etc?

Why isn't a major lawsuit going forward against both the city and the RNC?
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:11 AM
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16. Arrestees, Lawyers, Medics Condemn Conditions of RNC Protest Detention
From the New Standard


http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=942

New York City , Sep 3 - Over the past week, police have arrested around 1,900 people in events related to demonstrations and direct actions against the Republican National Convention. The vast majority of those arrests were made during indiscriminate sweeps that literally netted protesters and bystanders alike.


more . . .
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:24 AM
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17. Welcome Synnical
thanks for your link.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-07-04 11:59 AM
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12. kick
up past all papau's posts....
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:34 AM
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15. From the Village Voice -The Waiting Game

http://villagevoice.com/issues/0436/gonnerman.php

City keeps hundreds in jail too long, chilling protests and angering families
The Waiting Game
by Jennifer Gonnerman
September 7th, 2004 11:15 AM

"Something happened here I thought would never happen," Arrington says. "You expect it in the former Soviet Union, or Saudi Arabia maybe. But New York City? It's like they took the Bill of Rights and threw it in the trash can. To be arrested for standing on a sidewalk for disorderly conduct? It's beyond ridiculous. It violates people's rights. I'd have never believed it if you told me this would happen in the middle of New York City."

Late Thursday afternoon, the park across from 100 Centre Street was packed with friends and family members of people who had been arrested. The police had made nearly 1,800 arrests at protests related to the Republican National Convention, and most of them had occurred on Tuesday. Two days later, hundreds of people were still locked up, despite the fact that New York City has a "24-hour rule," which requires the city to arraign defendants within 24 hours of their arrest. Attorneys from the National Lawyers Guild and elsewhere had filed writs of habeas corpus that morning to try to expedite the prisoners' release.

Around midday, furious family members held an impromptu press conference. The speakers included Marie Carlucci, who had been standing in the park since 5:30 a.m., waiting for her 26-year-old daughter, a nursing student. "It's like having your child just disappear and not knowing where she is," Carlucci said. "I'm going crazy here." Her daughter had been picked up by the police at 9:15 p.m. on Tuesday. "She wasn't out protesting," Carlucci said. "She was on her way home from work."

continued...
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:35 AM
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18. www.democracynow.org
now doing eye-witness stories on the protests
and police "pre-emption"
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 01:11 PM
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19. LAWSUITS> BIG FAT LUCRATIVE LAWSUITS
and then on to the Hague! Think they will have to increase Belgium to hold all the criminals?
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:53 PM
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20. Just emailed Mark and Marc
The Morning Sedition guys. Maybe they'll do a show on it..
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:48 PM
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23. good
the more people who will still talk abou this,
the better.

This is not American.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:20 PM
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21. Unbelievable! Kick.
:kick:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:46 PM
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22. as things progress (or deteriorate) we're going to see more of this
checkpoints, detainment camps, and on and on.

Such is life under facist rule.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 05:25 AM
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24. Do you think Oberman and Brown would cover this?
This just ticks me off to no end.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:47 AM
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27. Depends if the White House sent a memo to Neal Shapiro
or not.....these pundits really have no power
over what they cover. They read the teleprompter
and make cute comments on the side.

The power is with the news heads and owners.
But plenty of letters to the editor, guest
columns etc. can prompt more discussion.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:50 AM
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28. Pre-emptive Arrests
The NYC Police needed to conduct pre-emptive arrests - there were people on the streets who looked shifty and looked like they might cause trouble.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 10:58 AM
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29. The shiftiest troublemakers
reside on taxpayer dollars in my White House.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-10-04 09:28 AM
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30. kick
kos I still can
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