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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:47 PM
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Destroying Iraq to save it
Destroying Iraq to Save It
Michael Kinsley

November 21, 2004

Has there ever before been a war that so many people disapproved of but so few wanted to stop? Have the reasons for starting a war ever been so thoroughly discredited without turning into reasons for ending it?

The Vietnam-era antiwar movement had an agenda: Bring the troops home. Or, in two words — suitable for a picket sign or a T-shirt — "Out now."

What seems to be today's antiwar position — it was a terrible mistake and it's a terrible mess, but we can't just walk away from it — was actually the pro-war position during Vietnam. In fact, it was close to official government policy for more than half the length of that war.

Today's antiwar cause doesn't even have a movement, to speak of, let alone an agenda. It consists of perhaps 47% of the citizenry — the ones who voted for John Kerry — who are in some kind of existential opposition to the war but don't know what they want to do about it.


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-kinsley21nov21,0,7794529.column?coll=la-news-comment-opinions
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:16 PM
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1. Too bad we don't live in a democracy with a free press.
If we did there would be some reporting of the truth that huge numbers of people want the war to stop NOW. If there was any risk posed to our politicians by an ACTUAL democracy vs. the current fictional democracy we might get support from house and senate democrats.

If the press ever bothered to interview peace advocates in the same proportion as they represented in the general populace we might start to have an actual dialogue.

Our elections are a sham. Even "liberal" politicians don't say boo about the war.

Our press and media are as controlled as they were in Stalin's Russia.

I miss the Old Republic. Where are the Jedi when you need them?
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Krs216 Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:27 PM
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2. Makes about as much sense as
the fact that everyone who left the polls claimed to have voted for Kerry, yet somehow:eyes: * ends up as the president. So much for democracy.
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