MSNBC has more photos of Saddam capture..NO mention of surrender now.

[Cannikin]

This is the one that popped up last week. MSNBC now has several others (cropped of course) They described things exactly how we figured in another thread... Their was NO mention of Saddam coming out with his hands up.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=993919

[ShaneGR]

1. Geneva Convention

Clearly states that pictures of prisoners of war are not to be used to degrade or humiliate those who are now captive.

Of course, what am I thinking, they've violated the Geneva Convention about 1000 times already.

Not that I think capturing Saddam is a bad thing, but when you act like the terrorists you are no better than them.

[Cannikin]

2. What I think is interesting...

The original leaker of the photo was asked to remove it for 'security reasons' and they refused...now a week later they release the whole set? But I can find raw, uncropped images to study like we did the first one.

[tom_paine]

3. Naturally. Saddam didn't surrender. Who said he surrendered?

Also, we've always been at war with Eastasia.
And chocolate rations are being increased 10mgs by the Party, I heard.

Please, there have obviously been huge advances inthe psychomanipulative arts. In many ways they are old advnmaces gussied up (70 years old and Germanic, if you know whast I mean)

The most important advances in the psychomanipulative arts are centered around these two tried and true Totalitarian dogmas which the Bushveiks have revolutionized for the 21st Century:

"Propaganda…must always be essentially simple and repetitious. In the long run, only he will achieve basic results in influencing public opinion who is able to reduce problems to the simplest terms and who has the courage to keep forever repeating them in this simplified form despite the objections of the intellectuals."
- Joseph Goebbels’ diary, 1/29/42

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." -Joseph Goebbels (attribution unsure)

These two tactics have been refined to an unreal level.

The best advertising in the world could sell slavery to a Free People.

[cryofan]

4. linka to other MSNBC photos????

[Cannikin]

5. Only in video form so far... www.msnbc.com main page

[Robb]

8. There's a description of the additional photos

here:

(snip)

The photographs show a haggard Saddam while he is being taken by camouflaged escorts. They show him in mundane settings, such as on a couch. In one picture, you can see a bag of napkins and a bottle of American-brand spray cleaner behind him.

(more)

[Robb]

9. ...and one NBC station

has 2 pics on their http://www.king5.com/news/specials/conflict/stories/NW_011404AA_KINGONLY_saddampixKC.1857d7ed.html">website (registration required):


These may not appear, thanks to the registration stuff. :shrug:

[laruemtt]

6. hmmm - does the greenery

in the background in other parts of the video mean anything? is the flora still green this time of year over there?

[Robb]

7. Went through that other thread and found something

...No one else mentioned; I guess it's because I live in a ski town, or something.

The black thing on the ground (stage right) is most definitely a full face mask belonging to the soldier, with the tactical goggles still on. I know this because of the way the hood is still stretched out, and that you can see the brand "O" for Oakley on the goggle strap. The ones in this pic are for skiing, but I know SF and SWAT use Oakley tactical goggles:

[Cannikin]

10. Cool! Good job!