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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:33 AM
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Kevin Phillips-American Dynasty-notes/quotes
I would encourage everyone to read this book to have rational talking points when you meet up with any remaining rational conservatives. I'm not all the way through it, but some interesting quotes to note- I'm paraphrasing...life's too short... lots of these will be familiar to many here.

Phillips notes that George Bush lost the election in 2000 and was, yes, it's true, like it or not, appointed. He had no mandate to push through his extremist agenda...and yet he did anyway.

This is not indicative of a man who values democracy.

Three Texans were responsible for three wars based upon dubious rationales (or outright lies...) Johnson-Vietnam-Tonkin. Bush-Iraq-April Gilespie-(Bush's arming of Saddam). Bush Jr.-Iraq-lies about WMD, imminent danger-mushroom cloud.

Two of those wars were central to the machinary which has propped up both Bushes: Oil, Covert Actions, Financial Paybacks, the Military-Industrial Complex.

what's so interesting is that Phillips sees in the Bush's the fruition of Eisenhower's warning about the "military-industrial complex." I once heard Matthews try to say Eisenhower was warning about the Kennedys, which is bogus, since they were not the Standard Oil or Bechtel or Silesium consortium.

The Bushies are absolutely those things.

Here is Phillips' remarks about the Walker/Bush connections to the build up of Nazi Germany. (not all of them...Walker is, in fact, much more of a player than Prescott, his son-in-law, in building an empire on developing the Nazi war machine...

Phillips notes that Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker were both involved with Harriman in various deals with Germany after ww1.

Many patrician young men were involving in financial schemes to make money off the rebuilding of Europe after the war, but some of them avoided Germany because of their role in WW1. (btw, the Dulles brothers also looked to Germany to make money.) This money-making could also be seen as a "Marshall Plan" --privatized and for the profits of a few, fwiw.

Phillips notes that American investments in Germany in the 1920s were controversial for various reasons, including aiding previous or potential enemies. p37

Brown Brothers Harriman was an active investor "in a Germany rapidly rearming under Adolf Hitler." (this at a time when Germany was not supposed to rearm, btw.)

Prescott Bush handled much of the German work at Brown Brothers Harriman p38
The Justice Dept. was probing German-connected investors in '41. In March '42 a special Senate Committee held public hearings on cartel agreements b/t U.S. and German firms.

William S. Farish (whose son is George H.W. Bush's money handler...among other financial services), pleaded no contest to criminal conspiracy b/c of dealings b/t his company, Standard Oil, and I.G. Farben.

(Skull and Bones) Sec. of War Stimson requested that FDR stop the investigations...ostensibly to make sure those companies would not be distracted while dealing with the war effort.
But inquiries went on via the Trading with the Enemy Act of Dec. 1941.

In 1938, Prescott had been collaterally involved in shipping tetraethyl lead needed by the Luftwaffe via the Ethyl Corp., again with Farish as director (and half-owned by Standard).

1941 headline in NY Herald Trib read: "Hitler's Angel Has $3 Million in U.S. Bank." The article noted that Thyssen had channeled the money into the Union Banking Corporation.

UBC was "nominally owned by a Dutch intermediary that Brown Brothers Harriman ran for the German Thyssen steel family. Prescott Bush was a director.

In Aug. 1942, property of the Harriman, Herbert Walker controlled American Ship and Commerce Corporation was seized under the trading with the enemy act.

On Oct 20, the alien property custodian seized the assets of the Union Banking Corporation.
In Nov. the govt seized the assets of the last major entity connected to Harriman, Walker, and Bush--the Silesian-American Corporation." p39

Phillips says that the outcome of these dealings is that no one said anything about them, much.
Phillips says, "it's almost as if these various German embroilments, depsite their potential for scandal, were regarded as unfortunate but in essence business as usual...A surprising number of the descendants of men who had dealt with Germany, William S. Farish III, William Draper III, Joseph Verner Reed Jr. (grandson of Remington chair) turned up as close personal advisors or high-level appointees in the George H.W. Bush administration." p40

Remington is interesting too-- a part of the structure of certain well-heeled financiers in the U.S. who had interlocking links. Remington was part of Thyssen's American "friends" --Samuel Remington was named an original director of the UBC.

The Merchants of Death hearings (special Senate Committee which investigated the Munitions industry) didn't get too far into the "major 1933-34 surge of U.S. military exports to Hitler's Germany." (and the state dept. leaned on the committee to make no reference to secret reports about German rearmament.)

fwiw- U.S. investment (ITT, GM, Ford, Standard Oil, GE) in Germany increased by 48.5% b/t 1929 and 1940, while it declined everywhere else on the continent.

..in other words, Phillips seems to say that Prescott and Herbert Walker were both financially entangled in Nazi Germany--along with lots of other corporations whose manufacturing investments in Germany were bedrock for the German warmongering.

Rather than single out Prescott, it's important to see that globalization in that era had very negative consequences because of the greed of a few wealthy individuals, and at the eventual expense of American lives, not to mention the extermination of the majority of the Jewish people on the European continent.

That's quite a high price to pay for rich people to compete among themselves to amass more money, seems to me.





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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 10:49 AM
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1. Thanks for the summary
RainDog. I can't wait to get my copy of this book.

This sticks out:

the outcome of these dealings is that no one said anything about them, much. ... "it's almost as if these various German embroilments, depsite their potential for scandal, were regarded as unfortunate but in essence business as usual...A surprising number of the descendants of men who had dealt with Germany, William S. Farish III, William Draper III, Joseph Verner Reed Jr. (grandson of Remington chair) turned up as close personal advisors or high-level appointees in the George H.W. Bush administration." p40

Wow! So what now in 2004 is different? Every scandal that's come up they have been able to shrug off with an "oh well, that's how it goes.." walk away scott free. And nobody seems to care. Either that or it's so complicated to follow, people just throw up their hands in confusion.

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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:03 AM
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2. only a few quotes from his book
not really a summary, but some people are saying that Phillips sort of dismisses the role of the Walker/Bush interests in funding the Nazis, and this is not true.

What Phillips doesn't do is single out Prescott, like lots of people on the internet do, and that is what he takes issue with in his interviews about this issue.

Phillips' concern over the globalized dynasty of the Bush family encompasses their dealings with the Nazi war machine, but is not exclusively about it.

He is just as concerned about the extremist religious right in America and their current influence on the Republican party and thus the entire country.

Of course, an examination of the extremist relgious right in this country shows they share many traits with other totalitarian ideologies.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:20 AM
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3. No, I haven't gotten that impression
listening to KP in interviews that he dismisses the Nazi connection. Quite the opposite. It's a major talking point for him.

What Phillips doesn't do is single out Prescott, like lots of people on the internet do, and that is what he takes issue with in his interviews about this issue.

It's indicative of a twisted business ethic and worldview that says it's ok to arm business parters then turn around to make war with them. Not to clean up your own mess, but because "golly gee, those people over there are soooo eeeevvviilll.." :eyes:

Whatever happened to the Trading with the Enemy Act, I wonder? Did it sunset or is it still around?

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 12:01 PM
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4. I heard Phillips talk on NPR
and he said he was a Republican, but that he wasn't voting for Bush because of what he'd found out. Wish that sound bite could be spread around. Book sounds really good.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 02:43 PM
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5. I want to give this book to my bro-in-law for his b-day
he's a republican. he's also a fundamentalist, but thinks he's from the "intellectual" end of that one (independent church that treats a service like a class, does not appeal directly to emotion, etc. --he's an engineer).

he's also lived in Texas for years and has worked in the oil industry.

he also HATES the moral swamp of so many of the Texas oil men he has dealt with over the years.

So I think that a book like this, which takes the same tact toward the facts that his church takes toward his religion might actually get through to him.

to tell the truth, I don't know where he stands on issues right now, because he is a fiscal conservative. of course, he's done well with the tax cuts, but he's also made plans to retire early, which might make him reconsider deficits and Bush.


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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 06:15 PM
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8. Phillips said

he's a registered Independent now, during an interview I heard. He changed party affiliation with GHWB, saying he does not like the Bush brand of politics.

Also, Phillips pointed out GWB campaigns in parts of the country his great-grandfathers resided in but never acknowledges them. He reminded how a politician will use ANY connection, no matter how trivial, he/she has to an area and play that up, hoping to get a bond with the residents.

Not so with GWB - no reference or reverence to his great-grandfathers.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 02:46 PM
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12. Hi jean!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 05:49 PM
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6. Also read the book - Trading With The Enemy-
By Charles Higham. He also covers US corporate dealings with Nazi Germany and much more...
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 07:26 PM
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9.  I'm reading that now.
Good book. The facts are appalling, and oddly familiar. For instance, the wartime use to which the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) was put reminds me a lot of BCCI.

Follow the money, and you often find a fascist.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 06:03 PM
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7. Eisenhower - audio clip out there?
I would like to hear the audio clip of DDE warning of the military industrial complex. A grainy video clip would be even better.

Imagine someone like Wes Clark educating the public with the help of Ike's words.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-25-04 11:13 PM
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10. I'm sure you can find it somewhere...
it's used all the time. Oliver Stone started his movie, JFK, with it.

I think Vanderbilt University in Nashville, TN has a video archive project for television...or it did.

Of course, you can probably get it via google, too.

Try Eisenhower military-industrial complex video, maybe?

anyone interested in Phillips' book should also check out the thread in the GDprimary forum which frankfrankly started asking about Kerry and the BCCI trial.

make sure you go to the link which is from January of last year about the BCCI trial which is now taking place in the UK.

there's LOTS of information there about biz as usual for the Bush Crony Criminal Industry.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-04 12:01 AM
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11. Mega Thanks, Raindog
That is a really illuminating compilation.

kick
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