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Bush_Sucks Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:24 PM
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What the hell is with American politics...
Your 2 major parties are SUPPOSED to represent the left and the right...

Not the Extreme Right and Moderates who lean a little to the Right.
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:25 PM
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1. Depends on where your compass is..
To must DUers, EVERYTHING is far right.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:35 PM
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6. Not so, their are also lots of Republicans that are fair people.
It is the right wing of the Republican party that has taken that party over that is so hard to take. I was a Republican all my life and every one in my family.Their is a point in being fair with both parties. As a Dem now I hardly wish to have govt take over business and I do not think govt does the best in all things but their is a middle ground.I think most of us people are in that middle. Some control by govt for the good of the general pop.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:26 PM
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2. We are undergoing the same "gleitschlaung" that Germany went through in 33
We have, essentially...National Socialists and the Parties Who Are Scared Shitless of Them.

Plus a change, plus a la meme chose.
(the more things change, the more they stay the same)
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:28 PM
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4. polite spelling correction - 'Gleichschaltung'
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:33 PM
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13. Thanks...wups misplaced my 't'
:hi:
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:27 PM
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3. Ummm... obviously you're new to American politics.
That's the way our system was designed over the years. Our two major parties are primarily different pro-big business parties, and they rig the system to ensure that no "outsider" parties are allowed in.

For evidence, look at the assets that were thrown by the DNC at the recent San Francisco mayoral election between a pro-corporate Democrat and a former-Democrat-turned-Green. They were MUCH more involved in this single election than numerous other, bigger ones that involved a Democrat and Republican.

It's just a reality we have to deal with here, and it ain't going away anytime soon....
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:03 PM
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11. What's the solution?
If you back a TP candidate, you're vilified. If you back the 'us too just not as much' party, you're part of the problem.

:shrug:
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:32 PM
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5. The problem is
That many Republicans are Republicans before they are Americans. Their identification with the party has become so pathological that they no longer can see that what they are doing is corrupting and apparently destroying all this country has and should stand for.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:36 PM
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7. but, but, but
"Republikkkan" MEANS "'Murrican," you liberal Bush-hater you!!!!!!!!
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:40 PM
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8. They represent the people.

I strongly suspect the majority of people are moderates. Are you saying nobody should represent us?
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Bush_Sucks Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 03:58 PM
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9. You are represented...
It's called the Democratic party.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:04 PM
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12. No
Democrats only represent right-leaning moderates.

The left-leaners or true moderates are screwed.

The left-liberals are screwed and seemingly always have been.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:38 PM
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14. Hmmm. This True Moderate thinks you might have something there
Not sure it was always this way but you might be right.

FULL DISCLOSURE: My definition of a True Moderate is as thus: A True Moderate does not have all views directly in the middle. The True Moderate has both a Rightist and Leftist side. The True Moderate believes that the Founding Fathers designed this nation to be a Moderate Nation, and the Constitutional Form of Government they laid out for us is designed to keep extremes from power, and also meant for each extreme to balance out the other over the long run.

The True Moderate distrusts both extremes equally.

The True Moderate would, if the Democratic Party was doing the mirror opposite of what the Busheviks are doing now, as regards fraud, theft, corruption, collusion, and the attempted destruction of the Old American Republic for personal gain, the True Moderate would stand on the side of the Republicans as any aware True Moderate should be standing with all their might on the side of the Democrats now.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:53 PM
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15. I like your definition
Amazingly, that sounds like *gasp* Nader!
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 04:00 PM
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10. Couldn't agree more!
And by the way: welcome to DU! Hope ya like it around here. :hi:
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