Easter Sun LTTE: "the entire city of Fallujah should be firebombed"

[PA Democrat]

I have had a heavy heart all week thinking about the horrible situation in Iraq. The fact that all of this killing and destruction has been occurring in the lead up to Easter, the celebration of the resurrection of Christ, the prince of peace, is a bitter irony.

I came across an absolutely sickening letter to the editor in today's Pittsburgh Post Gazette. Wonder if the bastard who wrote this letter will be attending church services this morning after expressing such "Christian" sentiments?

Here is an excerpt:

The entire city of Fallujah should be firebombed from the air, just as we did with Dresden. Many people died. It was war. So is what we are engaged in now. That whole city, and every man, woman, and child in it, should be reduced to nothing but charred ashes.

A message needs to be sent to those who would commit such actions as the terrorists in Fallujah did. The only reason they continue to do so is because they can. "Let the punishment fit the crime" is an old saying that in many cases falls short. The punishment should be more severe than the crime, if possible, so as to act as a deterrent to future crime.

When Hiroshima and Nagasaki were obliterated, it was done to send a message, to act as a deterrent and to save American lives in the future. Did innocents die? Unfortunately, yes.

To all of you reading this I say: just think of the innocents who perished on 9/11 in this country. And the thousands more who will die if we do not act decisively to deter such atrocities as Fallujah.


ED STROUS
Brighton Heights

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04102/298746.stm

[Turbineguy]

1. ".....and I could go on,

but I have to get ready for Church....."

[w13rd0]

2. What's with these boneheads...

...wanting to draw parallels to WWII or Communist Russia all the time. Perhaps they should go back a bit further in history. Firebombing Fallujah (a city in a nation we supposedly "liberated from tyranny" already) would be doing Ossama's recruitment for him. Backward ass knuckle dragging mini-Archie Bunkers...

[Mika]

3. There are parallels

We had to "free" the citizens of Dresden from the tyranny (Hitler's regime) we had helped get into power by firebombing them. We've been there, done that before.. and will do it again. Fallujah this time.

:puke:


Happy Easter

[Gman]

8. The RW was lost and disillusioned for years

after the Iron Curtain came down because they didn't have anyone to demonize anymore. That's why the RW was so happy that 9/11 happened because 9/11 gave them lots of new countries and people to hate.

[BeFree]

4. Hey Ed..

Let's get this straight... ya think we oughtta teach them a lesson, eh? Well, fella, I see you as a threat to me and my family, so, if I use your idea of dealing with threats, I have every right to take you out?

Ya better get down on your knees and thank God I am not a bloodthirsty bastard like you.

[BlueEyedSon]

5. Come on, "think of the innocents who perished on 9/11 in this country"!!!

What a f*&king IDIOT!

:puke:

[PA Democrat]

9. Yeah, it really bothers me

that idiots like this guy STILL haven't figured out that there is NO LINK between Iraq and 9/11.

[mrfrapp]

6. Round and round it goes.

"A message needs to be sent to those who would commit such actions as the terrorists in Fallujah did."

What knuckleheads like this apparently don't understand is that "firebombing" Falujah will prompt this exact same response; and so
on and so on, ad nauseum.


"To all of you reading this I say: just think of the innocents who perished on 9/11 in this country. And the thousands more who will die if we do not act decisively to deter such atrocities as Fallujah."

This guy couldn't think his way out of a paper bag.

[Florida_Geek]

7. The fact that a person would write that does not surprise me

the fact that it got into print. I am just lost for words over.

[Mika]

10. Keeps us in touch w/what's really out there

I'm glad that we can see that there are people in America who think this way. We have a long way to go.

[ClintonTyree]

11. Yeah.........

that would show the Iraqi's what Democracy is all about. What better way to win their hearts and minds than the senseless slaughter of thousands MORE innocent people.
The fact that escapes this wingnut is that these other events were done in declared wars, not "liberations". Iraq did not attack us, they never declared war on us, it was quite the other way around. WE were the aggressors this time, not the Germans or Japanese.
There was little or no thought put into that idiot's diatribe, but that's what we've come to expect from the rightwingnuts. Knee jerk reaction is their trademark, intelligent thought has little to do with it.

[Vickers]

12. "just as we did with Dresden" We? WE???

WE?????

Five hundred bucks says this assclown has never been in uniform. I love the way these chickenhawks are always ready to throw the military at every problem on Earth.

Veteran Vickers

[Gildor Inglorion]

14. I thought the RAF firebombed Dresden.

Maybe the guy's a British subject, but I doubt it. Well, I guess in a war, allies count as "we."

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. American and British bombers participated in the bombing of Dresden...

<http://www.pressaction.com/pablog/archives/000908.html>

Excerpt:

"Using the Dresden soccer stadium as a reference point, over 2000 British Lancasters and American Flying Fortresses dropped loads of gasoline bombs every 50 square yards out from this marker. The enormous flame that resulted was eight square miles wide, shooting smoke three miles high. For the next 18 hours, regular bombs were dropped on top of this strange brew. Twenty-five minutes after the bombing, winds reaching 150 miles-per-hour sucked everything into the heart of the storm. Because the air became superheated and rushed upward, the fire lost most of its oxygen, creating tornadoes of flame that can suck the air right out of human lungs.

Seventy percent of the Dresden dead either suffocated or died from poison gases that turned their bodies green and red. The intense heat melted some bodies into the pavement like bubblegum, or shrunk them into three-foot long charred carcasses. Clean-up crews wore rubber boots to wade through the "human soup" found in nearby caves. In other cases, the superheated air propelled victims skyward only to come down in tiny pieces as far as fifteen miles outside Dresden."

<http://www.rense.com/general19/flame.htm>

"February 13/14 1945: Holocaust over Dresden, known as the Florence of the North. Dresden was a hospital city for wounded soldiers. Not one military unit, not one anti-aircraft battery was deployed in the city. Together with the 600.000 refugees from Breslau, Dresden was filled with nearly 1.2 million people. Churchill had asked for "suggestions how to blaze 600.000 refugees". He wasn't interested how to target military installations 60 miles outside of Dresden. More than 700.000 phosphorus bombs were dropped on 1.2 million people. One bomb for every 2 people. The temperature in the centre of the city reached 1600 o centigrade. More than 260.000 bodies and residues of bodies were counted. But those who perished in the centre of the city can't be traced. Approximately 500.000 children, women, the elderly, wounded soldiers and the animals of the zoo were slaughtered in one night."

<http://www.natvan.com/free-speech/fs953d.html>

"At 10:10 PM on February 13th, the first wave of the attack, consisting of the British Number 5 Bomber Group, began. The attacking force consisted of about 2,000 bombers with additional support craft, which dropped over 3,000 high explosive and 650,000 incendiary bombs (more commonly known as firebombs) on the center of the city."

...snip...

"Exactly on schedule, three hours after the first attack, a second massive armada of British bombers arrived, again loaded with high explosive and massive quantities of incendiary bombs. The residents of Dresden, their power systems destroyed by the first raid, had no warning of the second. Again the British bombers attacked the center city of Dresden, this time dividing their targets--one half of the bombs were to be dropped into the center of the conflagration, to keep it going, the other half around the edges of the firestorm."

...snip...

" The next day, Ash Wednesday and Valentine's Day, 1945, medical and other emergency personnel from all over central Germany had converged on Dresden. Little did they suspect that yet a third wave of bombers was on its way, this time American. This attack had been carefully coordinated with the previous raids. Four hundred fifty Flying Fortresses and a support contingent of fighters arrived to finish the job at noon. I quote from David Irving's The Destruction of Dresden:

'Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires and cobbled streets .... now total war had put an end to all that. ...The ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the people to their knees... but it was not the bombs which finally demoralised the people ... it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly appeared low over the city, firing on everything that moved .... one section of the Mustangs concentrated on the river banks, where masses of bombed-out people had gathered. ... British prisoners who had been released from their burning camps were among the first to suffer the discomfort of machine-gunning attacks .... wherever columns of tramping people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire.'"

[Mikimouse]

13. Probably a fine, upstanding, pillar of the community...

Unfortunately, he struck a nerve! That SOB has no clue what he's talking about. My mother was IN Dresden when the allies decided, in their infinite wisdom, to destroy an entire city's population, along with thousands of refugees. Now, there's courage for you, dammit! All civilians, little industry, if any, left by that point, but the brilliant idea was nothing different than today's 'shock and awe' crap. Well, they sure shocked and awed a bunch of people, Ed, about 350,000 by some estimates; incidentally Ed, if you cannot digest such large numbers, that's more than than were killed in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Oh, and one more thing, you lunatic, firebombing is usually carried out from the air these days, not from underground, on the ground, or from the water. What an absolute POS!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

15. Let's see if I understand all of this correctly...

...the NeoCons used American military forces to illegally invade and occupy another sovereign nation based on reasons that were later discovered to be nothing but lies.

In the course of the invasion and ongoing occupation we have lost well over 600 military personnel, if the official reports are to be believed. Some believe that we have lost more than a thousand dead and several thousand wounded. Based on the references in the media to a shortage of troops in Iraq, and the calling up of additional troops, I have to believe that we have lost more people than the NeoCons are telling us.

Additionally, tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died during the course of this operation which Junior declared was over on May 1, 2003. Prior to the illegal invasion, we had imposed twelve years of sanctions on Iraq that had resulted in more than a hundred thousand dead Iraqis, primarily the very young and the old.

So, the Iraqis defend themselves outside of Fallujah by killing four "contractors", and some boneheads in the media want to call the Iraqis "terrorists".

Then, using the same exact tactics used by the Israeli Army against the Palestinian West Bank town of Jenin, the Marines are ordered to surround Fallujah and cut off all the roads into and out of that town. They follow that up by launching a house-to-house, door-to-door search for the "terrorists". Did they expect the Iraqis to sit back and allow the Marines to do their thing without any hostilities?

Question for the bonehead: If a foreign country had invaded and occupied the U. S. while killing lots of Americans including a member or two of your own family and some other people that you knew well, what would you be doing? Would you give in to the invaders and give them anything they wanted, or would you fight back with any means at your disposal? Think about that while you're at Easter Services being a real big Christian.

[leesa]

17. One of the ignorami who think Iraq was involved in 9-11.

Hey Ed! Your president was more involved in the occurence of 9-11 than Saddam. Any certainly far more guilty of those 3000 deaths than ANY of the entirely innocent 'ragheads' you want to muder you ignorant bigot.

[0007]

18. Another delusional opinion by a psychoneurotic person

that should be pitied and loved, along with another poster that has the same hatred, and yet claims Christianity as the life line to truth.