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botchan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:46 AM
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Tax and spend
Edited on Sun Apr-11-04 08:47 AM by botchan
Let us all come up with a good argument to the tax and spend issue. It is all I ever hear from the right and it drives me nuts. Let's face it with W's tax cut, increase in corporate tax breaks, increase in the federal deficit, and war spending, it makes a tax and spend democrat look like a fiscal conservative!!!

We need to get the word out that the federal cut in state funding has caused a huge increase in state and county taxes eliminating any tax cut benefits.

Also, we need to nickname the right, "hidden corporate tax break and defense spending conservatives."

What is your fiscal nickname for the right?

P.S. Happy Easter to everyone!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:47 AM
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1. I prefer "Thieves"
I'd use the nickname more often, but I am sensitive about offending people who don't deserve the association, like thieves.

--bkl
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:48 AM
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2. "Credit Card Republicans"
Run up a huge debt and interest they know the rest of us wil have to pay off!
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:58 AM
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4. that's the one! "Credit Card Republicans"
That's the other one I was trying to think of thank you, NewHampshireDem!
"Credit Card Republicans" I like this one and it's true!
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 08:55 AM
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3. "Red-ink Republicans"
Wish I could remember which DUer came up with "Red-ink Republicans" so I could give them credit for it, it's a good one and true!
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:04 AM
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5. Democrats prefer to pay the bills.
Republicans prefer to borrow money and have our children pay the bills, so they can look good now. "Tax and Spend" or "Borrow and Spend."
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botchan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:24 AM
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6. Fitting Name
It is a fitting name. They run the country like they run their companies. No concern for the future, maximize profit today and damn tomorrow. Dubya went to accounting school with Ken Lay - Hide and Lie...
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:32 AM
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7. Corporate Welfare Republicans
Democrats spend money on social programs that (God forbid!) help the middle class and the poor. Republican prefer to give money to their big corporate campaign contributors in the form of sweetheart government contracts, tax credits, and don't forget the bloated and obscene amount of taxpayers cash being diverted to the "defense" industry.

Republicans like to tell Democrats that you can't solve a problem by throwing money at it. Well, this bunch in office right now needs to realize that you can't solve a problem by dropping BOMBS on it.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:33 AM
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8. Republican presidents have been Credit Card Republicans for 40 years.
Since 1947 the federal government has had a deficit greater than 3% of GDP 14 times. Every single time it was under a republican president.

Since 1962 the federal government has had accumulated annual deficits totaling around $3.5 trillion. Of that total, about $3.2 trillion was accumulated in the 22 years under republican presidents and about $0.3 trillion was accumulated in the 20 years under democratic presidents.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2005/sheets/hist01z3.xls (Note: The budget and spending for the first fiscal year of a president's term is from the budget and appropriations from the preceeding presidential term. Thus, fiscal year 2001 was Clinton's last budget, not Bush's first.)
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botchan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:40 AM
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9. Great resource snippy thanks!!!
:)
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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 09:46 AM
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10. MUST READ: Are Democrats The New Fiscal Conservatives?
Here's a GREAT article: "Republican and Democratic Presidents Have Switched Economic Policies" by Jeffrey Frankel

http://ksghome.harvard.edu/~.jfrankel.academic.ksg/Republicans%20and%20Democrats%20Have%20Switched.PDF
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botchan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:04 AM
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11. Excellent Resource!!!
This information is helpful in arguing about the economy!!!

Thank you Ultrax
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