Have the names of those who traded put options on AA ever come out?

[MoonRiver]

Why aren't we hearing more about this from the 9/11 Commission. You know Asscrotch could get those names if he wanted them. But, of course, he may be on the list.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

1. Here are some links...

<http://www.hereinreality.com/insidertrading.html>

<http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/CroweBioport.html>

<http://www.rense.com/general19/2bigminds.htm>

<http://www.americanfreepress.net/051302/Revealing_9-11_Stock_Trades_Co/revealing_9-11_stock_trades_co.html>

[MoonRiver]

4. My God, surely the 9/11 Commission is looking into this.

If there are links on the Web with names, dates, associations, there's no excuse for not following this up.

[mulethree]

8. kick - great sites not just options trades

[mulethree]

9. kick

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. that's what i'm waiting to here too...but i won't hold my breathe

[JohnyCanuck]

3. Not in public, that's for sure.

Good summary of what we know about the Insider Trading on Airline and other 9/11 related stocks is contained in Mike Ruppert's latest article analyzing Condosleeza's testimony at the Commission.

LIES A SIXTH GRADER WOULD NOT ACCEPT

The documented pre-Sept. 11 insider trading that occurred before the attacks involved only companies hit hard by the attacks. They include United Airlines, American Airlines, Morgan Stanley, Merrill-Lynch, Axa Reinsurance, Marsh & McLennan, Munich Reinsurance, Swiss Reinsurance, and Citigroup.

In order to argue that massive and well-documented insider trading occurring in at least seven countries immediately before the attacks of Sept. 11 did not serve as a warning to intelligence agencies, then it is necessary to argue that no one was aware of the trades as they were occurring, and that intelligence and law enforcement agencies of most industrialized nations do not monitor stock trades in real time to warn of impending attacks. Both assertions are false. Both assertions would also ignore the fact that the current executive vice president of the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) for enforcement is David Doherty, a retired CIA general counsel. And also ignored is the fact that the trading in United Airlines stock -- one of the most glaring clues -- was placed through the firm Deutschebank/Alex Brown, which was headed until 1998 by the man who is now the executive director of the CIA, A.B. "Buzzy" Krongard.

<snip>

"This could very well be insider trading at the worst, most horrific, most evil use you've ever seen in your entire life... This would be one of the most extraordinary coincidences in the history of mankind if it was a coincidence," said Dylan Ratigan of Bloomberg Business News, interviewed on Good Morning Texas on Sept. 20.

"I saw put-call numbers higher than I've ever seen in 10 years of following the markets, particularly the options markets,' said John Kinnucan, principal of Broadband Research, as quoted in the San Francisco Chronicle," reported the Montreal Gazette on Sept. 19. The paper also wrote, "Agence France Presse, on Sept. 22, reported, 'And Germany's Bundesbank chief, Ernst Weltke, said on the sidelines of the meeting that a report of the investigation showed "bizarre" fiscal transactions prior to the attacks that could not have been chalked up to coincidence.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/040804_condi_rice.html

[salin]

5. I thought I read several years ago

that the 'investigation' was quietly dropped as it had "officially found" no cause to assume wrong doing (according to the DOJ). Maybe as early as January 2002? I could be wrong, but I seem to remember a news item to this effect.

[salin]

6. more...

the reason I remember the item - was it was very quiet and not talked about - and contradicted the flurry of stories from late Sept and early October. It seemed like another hush hush case by the DOJ (like.. we checked out possible civil rights issues in florida... no irregularities in the elections... all is fine...)

[davekriss]

10. I read something similar in 2003 I think

It was in a Canadian paper. It said, basically, that the puts were placed by reputable firms and these firms, bound by confidentiality agreements, do not release the names of their clients. And that was the end of it; I've not heard another squeak.

On edit, seeing your second post. That's how I remember the article. The puts were placed with large, old, and highly reputable firms; that these firms do not release the names of their clients; and that there was no reasons for wrong doing. Just a small staid piece in a Canadian paper, then that was it.

Move along ... there's nothing to see here...

[Minstrel Boy]

11. exactly. "reputable firms...confidentiality agreements."

As though every high crime ever committed has not had a financial aspect, with transactions conducted through so-called reputable firms, with confidentiality agreements. But since the money trail didn't lead to the caves of Tora Bora, "obviously" there was no connection to the perpetrators of 9/11. The insider trading, said by consultants in the weeks following the attack to have been massive, global and on an unprecedented scale, must never have happened. :eyes:

[boobooday]

7. Hey, hey . . . that'll be enough of that . . . thinking . . . you'll be

marginalized . . . banished to the grassy knoll . . . heh heh.

Whatever you do, just don't look too closely . . . there's a horrible stink around this whole damn thing . . .



http://www.wgoeshome.com

[bywho4who]

12. Deutschebank/AB Brown

Head man Buzzy Krongard, Use to direct the CIA. On 9-15-2001 NYT reports Mayo Shattuck resigned immediately as head of A.B Brown thats four days after the attack on WTC.


:smoke: :hippie:

[Minstrel Boy]

13. procedure used at Deutschebank/AB Brown assured anonymity

"European reporters found that most of the suspicious pre-attack trades passed through Deutschebank and especially via CIA Executive Director A.B. Krongard’s former Alex Brown investment division by means of a procedure called portage, which assures the anonymity of individuals making the transactions. But Congress has not publicly revealed whether they will call Krongard and other Alex Brown traders to testify in open hearings, or whether they will subpoena the pre-attack documents in question."
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0207/S00119.htm

A Deutsche Bank executive was convicted of money laundering shortly before 9/11, and the bank laundered heroin money linked to the CIA.

And Shattuck actually resigned on September 12(!) from his three-year $30 million contract as head of AB Brown.

More here:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/wot/sept11/911alexbrown.html
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/wot/sept11/suspicioustradingact.html