If there is a draft will Libertarians serve?

[Christ was Socialist]

I am curious since they don't believe in public schools or civil services. I'm wondering will they be out during the riots/protests. I know a few who have the belief that the millitary should be 100% privatized, which when you think about it means alot more benifits.

[Momgonepostal]

1. There's a libertarian guy on a board I frequent....

...who thinks private militias would be a great job defending our country. Anyone else find the thought of a bunch of separate militias running around a bit frightening?

[Christ was Socialist]

2. I'm in the middle

If it means no forced job and over $80,000-$350,000 a year per troop i have no problem with it. Although i must admit Machiavelli ahd a point about mercenaries


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CHAPTER XIII
Concerning Auxiliaries, Mixed Soldiery, And One's Own
AUXILIARIES, which are the other useless arm, are employed when a prince is called in with his forces to aid and defend, as was done by Pope Julius in the most recent times; for he, having, in the enterprise against Ferrara, had poor proof of his mercenaries, turned to auxiliaries, and stipulated with Ferdinand, King of Spain, for his assistance with men and arms. These arms may be useful and good in themselves, but for him who calls them in they are always disadvantageous; for losing, one is undone, and winning, one is their captive.

And although ancient histories may be full of examples, I do not wish to leave this recent one of Pope Julius II, the peril of which cannot fall to be perceived; for he, wishing to get Ferrara, threw himself entirely into the hands of the foreigner. But his good fortune brought about a third event, so that he did not reap the fruit of his rash choice; because, having auxiliaries routed at Ravenna, and the Switzers having risen and driven out the conquerors (against all expectation, both his and others), it so came to pass that he did not become prisoner to his enemies, they having fled, nor to his auxiliaries, he having conquered by other arms than theirs.

The Florentines, being entirely without arms, sent ten thousand Frenchmen to take Pisa, whereby they ran more danger than at any other time of their troubles.

The Emperor of Constantinople, to oppose his neighbours, sent ten thousand Turks into Greece, who, on the war being finished, were not willing to quit; this was the beginning of the servitude of Greece to the infidels.

[camero]

3. You actually should have a problem with it

It's not without its downside. Private armies are not constrained by the US Constitution and only go after the almighty buck. I think the ban on quartering of soldiers in people's homes may be the next right to go down with private armies along with the rest.

[Sean From Tampa]

4. Libertarians say they oppose a draft

It's one of the things I like about them.

I almost became one myself in college because I share their views about individual liberty. Like me, they oppose gun control, support drug legalization, oppose military conscription and think any laws restricting consensual behavior between adults (i.e. state anti-sodomy laws, anti-polygamy laws) are wrong.

I share very few of their economic views, however, but I was willing to overlook that because I share their views on personal liberty.

The trouble is, when I went to one of their meetings, all their talk was about "economic freedom," which means the same to them as the Repukes.

In fact, I didn't hear a single thing about the problems with our drug laws, our gun laws, or how a woman's right to choose was in danger from the right. The whole meeting was taken over by Repukes who left their party in disgust because they didn't think Reagan went far enough in deregulating every facet of the economy.

Needless to say, I stayed a Democrat.