If Gore Hadn't Depedended Too Much On His Advisors, could he have beaten *

[mot78]

by a wider margin? I read his speech and saw the streaming video, I actually like him now as an orator (I supported him in 2000 b/c i didn't want *, but I thought Bradley was a better speaker, even though he was a weak candidate). If he hadn't relied on Brazile & Co. about the earth-tones and debate conduct, maybe he could have survived the conservative slander against him, since their attacks on Gore were largely due to fumbles that originated amongst his staff.

[BlueState]

1. He did beat him.

He could have beat him more definitively if it was not so obvious that his every move was part of a campaign strategy.

Two big mistakes in my never humble opinion:

1. Pushing Clinton to the background.

2. Not addressing the right-wing lie that he was a liar.

[caledesi]

7. Exactly! Well said BS. He beat * but BS points out what he did wrong.

[Cha]

2. He would have been a different candidate!

Even I saw what those "handlers" did for him.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. *sigh*

Albert Gore, Democratic Party Candidate for the Office of The President of The United States of America most certainly did, by any objective delimiter but two, beat George W. Bush in the 2000 Election.

What two delimiters did he fail on?

1. The Republican Party gamed and corrupted the election in The State of Florida by illegally, and with malice aforethought, disenfranchising minority Democratic Voters, through all manner of subterfuge under color of the law.

2. The Supreme Court of The United States of America, in a brazen partisan ploy, voted, by a thin and rancorous 5-4 vote, to effectively hand the electoral college votes in Florida to George W. Bush, by misapplying the Equal Protection amendment. They knew so well that their decision was so fundimentally flawed that they stated that this decision would not act as legal precident for any other case that comes before SCOTUS in the future.

He did not fail. He was robbed of his victory by the criminal element that now runs Washington. He was robbed for oil, political and financial protection of corporate gangsters, the amount of the present Republican Party Bribe Chest, upward concentration of the country's wealth, to rip off the budget surplus to the sum of $5 trillion Tax Dollars over 10 years and many other reasons. Period.

[bread_and_roses]

5. I do not dispute your analysis but...

...I still think it probable that a more out-front Populist/Progressive Gore could have taken another state or two...which is why I fear these "centrist" Democrats who keep insisting (in the face of everything I read about polls on the economy and health care) that we can't be too "left" (ie, protecting labor, the environment, health care) in this election.

[kainah]

4. I had to drop in just to see how many people had told you

he DID beat *. The truth is that he had no more advisers, image consultants than most candidates do. But the press was all over him. Everything he did was subjected to ridiculous scrutiny. When the press can't criticize the left on substance, they go after personal style. Remember Hillary's hairstyles?

Donna Brazile is a good strategist and I don't agree that the right's attacks came about as the result of fumbles by Gore's staff. They originated because of the right's reductionist abilities and the media's propensity to scandalize whatever they deem inferior.

And then Gore made his own fatal mistake in Florida by trying to be above the fray and behaving like a gentlemen when he was up against street thugs. If anyone totally blew it, that honor belongs to Joe Lieberman who went on Meet the Press and virtually invited the repugs to do the Thanksgiving stuffing of the overseas ballots.

[Dem2dend]

6. If he could have won his own state

he would be king. His advisors did keep him from that, he did.

[newyawker99]

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