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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:29 PM
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Schwarzenegger: The Premiere Magazine article and other dirt. Fair game?
Edited on Thu Aug-07-03 11:41 PM by Karmadillo
Is sexual conduct the key to one's character? Should one spread dirt about one's opponents to control the political agenda or win elections? I know we at DU are reluctant to engage in this sort of thing or at least feel the need to make such a claim, but the right wing and their media accomplices have certainly demonstrated little in the way of a similar reluctance. How many times did we hear the phrase "Bimbo Patrol" used in close proximity to "Bill Clinton"? Was he a rapist? Did he father a love child? Was he a sexual harrasser? Did he use Arkansas state troopers as procurers? No allegation was too lacking in underlying facts to not make it into the national political discourse.

So, what's going to happen to the fairly well known stories about Arnold Schwarzenegger contained at the links below? Adultery ("Eating is not cheating"). Sexual harrassment (at least two accusers have gone public). General "I'm a shit but I have so much more money than you there's nothing you can do about it, is there?" behavior ("Sit, you ugly dog"). Ignored? Happened when Schwarzenegger was just a tyke and doesn't count? We've moved on and personal attacks are just not appropriate in the post 9/11 world? He's a Republican and we don't trash them, you incredibly naive moron?

Or, highly unlikely, will the media actually raise the issue and make Schwarzenegger address it? Today's bizarro world crazed adulation by the Judy Woodruff crowd suggests they won't, but by the standards applied to Bill Clinton, they should.

The Premiere article is not from a direct link, but comes instead from a celebrity gossip group on Google. I assume it's a correct transcription of the original, but I can't say so for sure. The information in the first two links would suggest it's the genuine article.

From Salon:

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Yep, thanks to Premiere magazine, which has seen fit to publish rumors that have been swirling around Schwarzenegger for months, Arnold's got his own sex scandal.

In an upcoming article headlined "Arnold the Barbarian," the magazine alleges that Schwarzenegger has caused pain in his marriage. Lots of it.

One journalist claims to have seen Schwarzenegger "making out" with his "Total Recall" costar, Rachel Ticotin. A former employee says he pawed Linda Hamilton while her then-boyfriend, "Terminator 2: Judgment Day" director James Cameron, looked the other away. And two witnesses say they watched horrified as the brawny actor accosted a female crew member working on "T2," "put his hands inside her blouse" and sent her crying to a nearby trailer.

But feeling up a crew member may not have been Schwarzenegger's most shocking transgression on the "T2" set. According to the magazine, the actor was fond of humiliating his dresser. "Sit, you ugly dog," he'd reportedly bark. And the man would be required to drop to his knees.

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From CompuServe Celebrity:

Much has been made of the March, 2001 story in Premiere magazine, "Arnold the Barbarian: Sex, Pets and the Videotape." It accuses the actor of frequently groping females and engaging in extramarital affairs.

It caused famous friends of Arnold including Jamie Lee Curtis and James Cameron to publicly support him and deny the ugly claims.

It was faxed to political news desks at newspapers, TV and radio stations all over the state by none other than Democratic Governor Gray Davis' top political strategist. Yes, the same Gray Davis who is now the subject of California's recall election. One can only imagine how much Arnold would like to help terminate Davis' career as governor.

There have been many other similar claims against Schwarzenegger over the years, though -- not just in Premiere or the tabloids. Three months prior to the Premiere story, two female British television personalities, on separate occasions, went public with charges that Schwarzenegger had groped them. In March, 1992, the now-defunct Spy magazine ran a jaw dropping article that detailed a litany of the long-standing negative rumors about Schwarzenegger. Womanizing was just one.

From Premiere Magazine:

Arnold the Barbarian - Premiere Magazine
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By John Connolly

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“The second I walked into the room,” Anna Richardson says, several weeks after the incident, “he was like a dog in heat.” Other stories about Schwarzenegger tend to fit her simile. During the production of the 1991 mega-blockbuster Terminator 2: Judgment Day, a producer on that film recalls Arnold’s emerging from his trailer one day and noticing a fortyish female crew member, who was wearing a silk blouse. Arnold went up to the woman, put his hands inside her blouse, and proceeded to pull her breasts out of her bra. Another observer says, “I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. This
woman’s nipples were exposed, and here’s Arnold and a few of his clones laughing. I went after the woman, who had run to the shelter of a nearby trailer. She was hysterical but refused to press charges for fear of losing her job. It was disgusting.”

A former Schwarzenegger employee recalls another incident from the T2 days. At the time, director James Cameron was married but having an affair with one of the film’s stars, Linda Hamilton. One evening, while riding in a limo with Cameron, Hamilton, and others, Schwarzenegger suddenly lifted Hamilton onto his lap and began fondling her breasts through the very thin top she was wearing.
The witness says, “I couldn’t believe Cameron didn’t have the balls to tell Arnold to get off his girl. The whole thing made me sick.”

A female producer on one of Schwarzenegger’s films tells of a time when herex-husband came to visit the set. When she introduced the man to Schwarzenegger, the star quipped, “Is this guy the reason why you didn’t come up to my hotel room last night and suck my cock?”

A woman who went to the set of 1996’s Eraser recalls the friend she was visiting there being asked to retrieve Schwarzenegger from his trailer for a shot that was ready to roll earlier than expected. “He asked me if I wanted to meet Arnold, and I said sure. When we opened the door to his trailer, Arnold was giving oral sex to a woman. He looked up and, with that accent, said very slowly, ‘Eating is not cheating.’ I met him again about a year later and
asked him, in German, whether or not eating was cheating, and he just
laughed.”

It’s clearly convenient for a guy who preaches family values in interviews— particularly when he’s promoting the Inner-City Games Foundation, his youth charity, and citing single parenting as a major social woe—to have some loose parameters as to what constitutes cheating on one’s wife. (It depends on what your definition of define is.) By some accounts, Maria Shriver has not had it
all that easy. Two people witnessed an incident at a 7 a.m. tennis game that Mr. and Mrs. Schwarzenegger were playing at their hotel, during the shooting of Total Recall. One of the witnesses says, “Maria started throwing up. She couldn’t play, and Arnold started berating her and then stomped off the court. At noon that day, the smiling couple announced that Maria was pregnant.” Schwarzenegger was also seen carrying on with his Total Recall costar Rachel Ticotin. A journalist who once accompanied the (then) married
Ticotin and Schwarzenegger on an evening out says, “The three of us had gone to dinner, where the two of them were all lovey-dovey. We then went to a nightclub, but I left to go back to the Hotel Nikko México soon thereafter. When I left them, they were making out and were all over each other on a banquette. The next day, I saw Arnold and Maria strolling out of the elevator. Maria gave me the look a married woman does when she knows that you know her husband is cheating on her. I felt terrible for her.”

A lot of people must feel the same. A lawyer who frequents Café Roma, a Beverly Hills bistro that is a hangout for real and wannabe wiseguys, says, “When ever I see Schwarzenegger and his crew , I leave quickly and go to another restaurant. This guy is a real pig. He will say the most disgusting sexual things to women he doesn’t know. Everybody knows he is Arnold Schwarzenegger. . . . But in any other city, somebody would have cracked him by now.” In Hollywood, though, nobody cracks a billion-dollar box office gorilla.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:33 PM
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1. Are you kidding? Of course, anything is fair game when it comes
to beating back demons from hell. They aren't playing nice ..why should we?

arnie needs to stick to failing blockbusters and stay out of trying to chisel Calif down some more. anybody that supports bush is nutszoid.
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:34 PM
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2. I say he's fair game. If nothing else, it'll point out the
Republican hypocrisy yet again.

Will the media do this, though? Not likely.
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Dagaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:39 PM
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3. The truth is fair game
The past is the past and up to the voters to decide what's important to them. I really do hate the problem that one has to disclose past problems that hurt the family because some paid PI will dig up info.

Like Paul Dean, who really cares beyond the wish for his well being, that he was arrested? If Howard the Dean wasn't running for Prez then this would be buried in the Vermont times.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-03 11:41 PM
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4. Big problem.
Clinton was attacked by an organized right wing conspiracy with Ken Starr in the middle orchestrating the investigation of Whitewater that somehow morphed into an investigation of his relationship with Paula Jones and ultimately Monica Lewinsky that had nothing to do with Whitewater. Behind the scenes were the hidden right-wing think tanks like Mellon Sciafe that were funding much of this investigation.

We don't seem to have such formidable prosecutors, however, maybe everyone should email these excerpts to their church and pastor and ask them if they have any thoughts of endorsing Ahnold to their congregations, maybe they need to think about it.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:10 AM
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5. When it stops being fair game for republicans then I will say
no it is not fair game. Until that time, they can just squirm on that petard.
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JustJoe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:15 AM
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6. I believe I read that Awnood
was vehemently against the Clinton impeachment.
Maybe for self-serving reasons.
Having said that, anything goes at this stage
& in this recall fuggup. It will be interesting to
see if Awnood grabs some reporter & forehead-slams
him for asking a nookie question once too often.
It's not what they say about you, it's how you
handle it.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:16 AM
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7. We should use reverse psychology...
Chances are that the Repubs know the same thing about him that we do. They would anticipate us bringing it up as some sort of revenge for Clinton. I say keep them in suspense. Do not criticize Arnie yet... Let it simmer until it is well-cooked. By then, the Repubs will see him for what he is and they will break the stories on Arnie themselves. We can smile and say, "No! I didn't know that.." Give them enough rope on this one and they will hang themselves. We will not be telling them anything they don't already know.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:24 AM
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8. I would rather investigate his business dealings.
Since he has made himself rich in my old neighborhood I know it isn't that hard to get records in LA and Santa Monica as they are a matter of public record for anyone who wants to go snooping around the Country Recorder's office and the Hall of Records for discrepancies in ownership agreements, partnerships and corporations as well as unpaid taxes.

As a restaurant owner, how many citations does he have from the health department and other agencies? If he can't keep up with this stuff, how does he expect to be able to run a state with the size and diversity of California?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 07:51 AM
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9. I fear the Repubs would see these stories in the same light as
Edited on Fri Aug-08-03 07:52 AM by Karmadillo
Bush going AWOL, driving drunk, engaging in insider trading etc. Not an issue since they don't involve a Democrat. Maybe I'm underestimating them, but recent history suggests maybe I'm not.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 08:37 AM
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10. I think that his comments at his candidacy announcement
showed what a political novice he really is. "I have all the money I need, I don't need any special interest money." His indication that he knows what California needs, and that he intends to clean house is a great big middle finger waving at the California Legislature, and if he were to win, I think he would find that they would not be too cooperative. And he can't exactly burst through and repel down from the Capitol Rotunda Dome, machine guns blazing, to "clean house," like he might in one of his movies.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 08:44 AM
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11. Yabbut I'd Try to be Subtle About it, Ya Know?
Something along the lines of, 'this just goes to show you the Republicans really DID admire Bill Clinton. So much that they want to run someone just like him in California."
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 09:02 AM
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12. All's fair now.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 09:49 AM
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13. I can't wait to see Larry Flynt pimp slap R-Null!
This is going to be a three ring circus maximus! Conhead the Neandernazi is a disaster worse than the fault running under LA county waiting to happen! Bring it ON!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 12:56 PM
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14. schadenfreude kick for the Teutonic douchebag
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-03 01:00 PM
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15. Here's another link to add
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