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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:36 PM
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Samuel Dash: "Today We Face Another 'Watergate'..."
Monday, August 11

Samuel Dash:
Today We Face Another 'Watergate'...

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0811-03.htm

Published on Monday, August 11, 2003 by Long Island (NY) Newsday
Today We Face Another 'Watergate'
by Samuel Dash

Thirty years ago the Senate of the United States prevented President Richard Nixon from destroying constitutional democracy in our country. Watergate was a wrenching turning point in our history and its lessons must be learned and re-learned.

Now our lives as a free people are also being threatened by an administration bent on grabbing unprecedented power, a timid Congress and an uninformed electorate. That is why the Watergate experience remains so relevant to our republic today.

Watergate was much more than a bungled burglary of the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate office building by agents of President Nixon to obtain information that would help Nixon get re-elected in the presidential election of 1972.


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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 03:56 PM
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1. Dash speaks here of the danger that arises when Congress is passive
& acquiescent. One can scarcely overstate the connection between Congressional passivity, & the opposition party ceasing to function as a real opposition.

The Democrats who urged the party to the right -- to echo the Republican mantra of "ending big government" in the Clinton era, to vote for the Iraq War so as not to appear "unpatriotic" last fall, and now to (for example) cheerlead for a general as a possible candidate to show that Dems are "tough on defense" -- all this is the mark of a party in utter disarray. All these things are symptoms of a potentially fatal political disease, which is as much a result of the pathetic collapse of the opposition, as it is of the direct misdeeds of the villains.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:05 PM
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2. I don't see another Watergate coming
And this is just a pipe dream.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:08 PM
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3. Actually, I see the current scandals as worse than Watergate
but the overall political effect will be nil because there is no investigative reporting going on in this country.

So overall, I agree, this is a pipedream.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:11 PM
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5. The media is the problem
If there was one issue facing Democrat it's the media. More and more I am convinced of that.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:09 PM
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4. Haven't you heard?
BlackBoxVoting is the next Watergate.
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:13 PM
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6. W gate
you have to say it to hear it.

I remember when we knew about the breakin at the watergate and nobody thought anything of it. A couple of months ago we on this board were talking about weaponsgate and all the lies and deceptions, and how nobody was getting it.

then all of a sudden bush's numbers dropped, people started talking about his lying, and all kinds of good things happened.

So the media and public is taking a little rest, but in a couple of weeks - maybe around the time the military families decend on Crawford, there will be another round of interest in his lies and malfeciance.

I think we should call it "W gate." Because he IS the crime. he IS the scandal.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:14 PM
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7. The Imperial Family would never allow it
Sure, the Bushevik crimes, fraud malfeasance, conflict-of-interest and RICO-violations encopasses the entirety of Watergate as one small wing.

From Busheviks like Slappy Thomas, Rehnquist and Scalia having relatives working for the Emperor, yet casting their "votes", the only valid votes in the Empire, to the fraud and collusion of the no-bid contracts to Halliburton and Bechtel, the Busheviks are covered in muck and slime.

But everyone knows personal destruction and perhaps death await those who take on the Imperial Family and get close to succeeding.

I say again, the steps of the Senate would be slick with blood (ok, this is a metaphor for trashed careers and antispetic airplane crashes, but people would in fact die the closer invetsigations came to piercing the heart of the Imperial Family.

I have absolutely no doubt.

The Imperial Family can continue doing whatever they wish because they are now above the law. Anthrax letter and the Wellstone & Carnahan assassinations cemented that. The message to the living was loud and clear.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:17 PM
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8. Hyberbole


Until ANY evidence (ANY) comes out suggesting Paul Wellstone was murdered we look like a bunch of boobs for saying it.

Wellstone was one of a kind. I get sick to my stomach thinking about his loss, but there is no evidence to suggest he was murdered.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:22 PM
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9. I, frankly, could care less about what *we* look like
As long as the *candidate* we support looks great.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:35 PM
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11. Call it hyperbole. Call it what you will.
"Who benefits?" is as legitimate question as it ever was.

I suppose had you lived during the time of Augustus, you would find nothing fishy or odd about the untimely deaths of virtually everyone who stood ahead of Tiberfius becoming Emperor.

And of course, Tiberus became Emperor. But I'm sure it was all a fortutitous coincidence and not worthy of reexamining.

I'd say there's about as least as much hard evidence pointing to an assassination as there is pointing to an accident.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:37 PM
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12. Oh silly you
letting history get in the way.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:23 PM
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10. Pipe dream? Spoken like...
.....well, like you! :evilgrin: LOL!
Then again, you never seem to see things the same way most of us do! :hi:

Dash must be one of them 'blame America first' types. :(
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 04:47 PM
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13. Pipe dream? Yea, if aWol and gang are smoking belladonna...
(not at all recommended! at all.)

I see no way for the jerks to avoid calamitous scandal and ruin. No way.

Sure, it's moving in fits and starts now. The usurpers are trying to stick their little things in the dike. That usually just makes for a messier flood, e.g., the investigation of outing Wilson's wife. KKKarl, please try more, like running faster through a mine field.

Consider all it would take to drop the pedal to the metal on this thing:

- 6 or 7 Representatives

- 2 or 3 Senators

- 1 Judge

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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 05:08 PM
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14. One point Dash made--outraged letters demanding impeachment
were important in setting the stage for Nixon's resignation. Do you suppose he is wondering why more people aren't writing more such angry letters now? And that he believes it would make a difference?
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