Did Bush1 just attack Clinton physically?

[lazarus]

I wasn't watching, but this was just posted on DailyKos:

Hmmm, I wasn't watching the WWII Memorial ceremony, but apparently there was a bit of jostling around. Reef the Dog reports in the Open Thread comments:
It was on CNN. Bush 41, 43, and Clinton were talking at the end of the ceremony. Clinton wagged his finger in Bush 43's face. Dunno what they were talking about but it seemed at least superficially cordial. Then Poppy suddenly shoved Clinton in the chest with both hands, enough to throw Clinton off balance. I don't know why, but it was completely inappropriate and almost seemed to me like 41 was trying to prove his manhood or something. I'm not even sure what happened after that, the camera quickly went somewhere else.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/29/162231/064

[romantico]

1. I'd be surprised

Not that Bush sr. would do it but that Clinton would rspond like that.Thats what "They" do, thats not what we do!

[bearfartinthewoods]

70. i just saw the video

anyone who claims this was an attack is totally full of shit. they were goofing off....period. people saying it was anything other than that are fucking with us.

[warrior1]

2. these

fuckers are out of control.

[coloradodem2005]

3. That bad?

[boobooday]

4. WHOA! My goodness!

Wouldn't surprise me though, they are all a bunch of arrogant "aristocrats" with mean and selfish tempers.

Clinton probably said something true -- that's enough to set a Bush off. OR, maybe he repeated what he said at the inauguration: "You must be proud of your son."

heh-heh.



http://www.wgoeshome.com

[kentuck]

5. During the ceremony, I did notice...

That Bush Sr was attempting to talk to Clinton during Dole's address, and Clinton was ignoring him...I thought that was strange for Clinton...he's usually ready to gab with anyone... :shrug:

[burrowowl]

11. Not while someone is speaking

Clinton is polite.

[fujiyama]

18. That too

I think Clinton and Dole are acttually friends. I'm sure this drives the freepers crazy.

[jpgray]

6. At least he didn't vomit on him (nt)

[bearfartinthewoods]

71. you own me for a keyboard clean up...

:grin:

[jpgray]

74. Hey bear, haven't seen you around for a while.

:hi:

[MikeG]

7. If I was Clinton I'd kick the old man's ass.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

8. Is this TRUE?

Forgive me, but I don't watch TV much at all. Any verification of this?

[bearfartinthewoods]

72. i just saw the video

no, it was not an attack.

[stellanoir]

9. oh. . .to be a fly on the memorial. . .

[KC21304]

10. To me it looked like something you might do when

someone is saying something outlandish and you say " get otta here " and kind of give the person a shove. They were laughing when it happened but it did look kind of silly.


on edit. And they did all go their separate ways right away.

[LandOLincoln]

20. I didn't see it either--switched to a Western as soon as the fake

cowboy came on--but your theory strikes me as the most likely. It may well be that Poppy was feeling real anger/agression but decided to make a joke of it, because he knew the Big Dog--twice his size and half his age (not literally true in either case, but you get the point) would clean his clock if he really tried to start something.

[cally]

30. Kerryfan...Did you see it?

Can you confirm this happened?

[KC21304]

36. Yes I saw it. I didn't see that Clinton was wagging his finger,

but that may have happened. They were very close together when they were talking because there was still music playing and I suppose they had to put their heads together to hear. It was kind of startling when Poppy did push Clinton, with both hands.

[OneBlueSky]

12. folks, this is the internet . . . you can be damned sure that someone . .

will post that confrontaton -- or whatever it was -- sooner rather than later . . . stay tuned . . .

[romantico]

13. Maybe Bush sr.

Just heard about what Clinton wrote about him in his book & freaked out!

[Deb]

15. I hope so, it made me do a double take

[lazarus]

17. lord, I hope so

I can't wait to see it.

How did we get saddled with this pathetic excuse of a family, anyway?

[tridim]

14. Homer Simpson would be proud of the Big Dog

Now, are there any questions? -- keeping in mind that I already explained about my hair.

[Poiuyt]

44. Remember that Simpson's episode?

Bush 1 moves next door to the Simpsons and Homer and George end up fighting each other.

[w13rd0]

16. How sad is it...

...when the "pResident" is such a insufferable shithead that his father (a former president) goes to fisticuffs with another former president?

[MikeG]

19. Here's a link to a picture

http://community.webshots.com/photo/147422310/147422428vdtlZr

[wryter2000]

23. That looks pretty aggressive

Thanks for posting that. Bush1 and Bar have been vocal about how upset they are at the way their golden son has been denigrated lately. Poppy's anger may have boiled over.

Too damned bad for 1 and Bar. Their son is a murderer, as far as I'm concerned.

[Kahuna]

35. Prolly told Clinton, 'when you see Al Gore.. tell him I'm looking for him.

:bounce:

[pretzel4gore]

49. so's twat!

daddy of twit (lol)
bush sr knows who was involved in JFK murder.....the US should torture that info outta him....

[Ediacara]

50. Hmmm I am not convinced it's aggressive per se

I will reserve judgement until I catch the movie, although from reports it seems like it may have been fairly aggressive.

[bearfartinthewoods]

73. still pictures can be misleading...watch the video

it shows it was in good humor.

[wtmusic]

65. Clinton's smiling

nada.

[Nlighten1]

21. Is there video for this anywhere?

[Straight Shooter]

22. "Did not!" "Did too!" "Did not!" "Did too!"

:wtf:

edit: on viewing the photo, it sure looks like they're smiling. junior is looking the other direction, not even noticing how poppy is standing up for his, er, manhood ...?

[wryter2000]

25. You could be right

Still, unless you're good friends with someone, putting your hands on him is pretty hostile. And Bush has clearly pushed Clinton to arm's length.

I wonder if Poppy was trying to argue with Clinton about * during Dole's speech. If he was, and Clinton ignored him and then said something snippy to *, that could push Poppy over the edge, I would think.

[Dont Hurt Me]

24. I saw it

Both bushes and clinton were shooting the shit. And Bush #1 Just play pushed clinton. You can easily tell they were just joking. Nothing to see here move along.

[DaveSZ]

26. I think they were joking

They are both smiling.

[msmcghee]

27. I don't see smiling.

Clinton looks surprised - Bush looks aggressive.

You don't put both arms/hands like that on another person unless you are getting ready to embrace him or are pushing him.

I can't imagine them embracing for any reason.

[Dont Hurt Me]

29. No

trust me they were joking. They may not like each other, but I saw it on TV and they were cordial.

[msmcghee]

31. OK - you saw it, I didn't.

I'll go with your take on it until I hear otherwise.

Thanks for the clarification - welcome to DU. It gets to be addictive.

You can get more news in 20 seconds, any time of the day or nite, on LBN than anyplace else on the web.

[FizzFuzz]

46. too true

this place IS totally addictive; my butt is sore from sitting here way too long.
But I don't sit in front of TV--I get all my news here! :donut: :toast:

[Miss Authoritiva]

60. Was it the way Elaine Benes used to put her hands on Jerry's chest,

or Kramer's chest, or George's chest, push, and yell, "Get out!" in a weird display of aggressive affection? (Remember, from "Seinfeld").

[VolcanoJen]

28. It wasn't violent or anything... just a "Get OUTTA here!" moment.

It didn't strike me as a "shove". More like a playful push. I would absolutely LOVE to find out what Clinton said that garnered the response from King Bush I, though!

[dumpster_baby]

39. probably boasting about how many American jobs they sent overseas

Bush 41: "Hell, I sent 5 million American jobs overseas! Top that, you piker Clinton!"

Clinton: " You are minor league, George! I sent 5 million jobs overseas, and I imported 5 million third world immigrants to take even more jobs and lower wages!"

Bush 41: "You are a piker compared to my Dubya! He will wipe out 15 million jobs through outsourcing and immigration!"

Bush 41 then playfully pushes Clinton to make his point.....

[mike1963]

54. I'd love to know too, but I agree, it wasn't so much agressive as it was,

well, just a rather -odd- thing to do. I don't remember ever in my life seeing a guy do that to another one. In public, anyway. :evilgrin:

[Kahuna]

32. Clinton should've cold copped him..

:puke:

[The Backlash Cometh]

37. I always thought it was cold cock?

?

[Algorem]

41. That's not what she said.

[The Backlash Cometh]

48. Well, it certainly wasn't one of the easiest idioms to look up on the

internet.

[Hubert Flottz]

53. Well when you look at how Poppy attacked Clinton and then you

think back a couple of months and how mad Bob Nosak attacked the guy you just have to conclude that these guys are CRAZY and suffering from serious mental illnesses! I mean that's just plain insanity to start fights and attack people in public! It may even be a Gawd Forbid, conspiracy! It's definitely a pattern of depraved insane antisocial behavior, no doubt in my military mind! I'll bet he's telling Clinton if he don't want to end up like JFK, he'd better lighten up on his brat!

[Deja Q]

33. What an unicivilized animal.

Typical bush behavior. :puke:

Afterthought: Another step closer to a new civil war? :tinfoilhat:

[ILeft]

34. Maybe the "push" is the BFEE version of La Cosa Nostra kiss?

:shrug:

[tjwash]

38. Bush1 is such a fucking punk...

...that if the big dog said let's step outside and discuss this mono-a-mono, he would probably back down and slink away like a wuss.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

40. Discuss this "monkey to monkey"?......... I think you mean mano a mano....

Sorry I couldn't help myself. :evilgrin:

[dpibel]

62. Wouldn't it be "mano a mono" in this case? n/t

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

64. Correcto! n/t

[Unperson 309]

42. EXCELLENT Question: How Would the Secret Service Respond

if two ex-Presidents (or even two Presidential candidates, anyone the SS was bodyguarding) tried to kill each other?

Say Ex-Prex #1 slugged Ex-Prex #2 and got a haymaker in return. Since the SS is trained to annul the threat by bodily stopping the aggressor, but is also trained to keep all attackers AWAY from their boy....

THAT would be a scrum to remember, you BET!

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[JayS]

45. I think the Golden Rule is always...

...don't shoot the incumbent...so I guess Gore would be safe. :)

[prodigal_green]

43. Did Babs try to break it up?

Remember how upset she got when Gore got in Chimpy's "space" during the debates?

Clinton is looking in top form these days. Oooooh, I'd love to see him and Hillary take on the Chimp and the Wimp in a tag team fight.

[vetwife]

47. Did the old man realize thats assault and simple battery?

Oh I forgot..they are above the law..But Clinton could have brought charges ! Kidding or not !

[Myrina]

51. Big Dog prolly told 41 to take 43 to the woodshed for a whuppin'.

:)

[peekaloo]

52. Bush: You old draft dodger, what are you doing here

Clinton: *wagging finger* Now, now Wimpy who sent those cruise missiles when Saddam tried to off you.....at least I didn't bail on my buddies in WW2.

Bush: Inhale this....*shove*

Bar: Oh my beautiful mind, it's melting, melting.

[Hubert Flottz]

55. What will we tell the children?

These GOPers are C-R-A-Z-YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

[Nashyra]

56. I just love the fact that big dog got elected twice

Bush 1 only once and Jr. has yet to be elected.

[peekaloo]

57. tell 'em not to take those blue pills Bob Dole is pimping

Boo$h Sr. did and it made him an aggressive little prick.

[Hubert Flottz]

58. Bob Dole has a hard on for family values?

Is that what you're sayin'! Since the GOPers played the crazy card on Big Al we need to call attention to every CRAZY thing they do and by-Gawd they do PLENTY of crazy shit! Al Gore is Crazy like a FOX!

[oasis]

68. That's a good one.

:-)

[juajen]

59. I saw it.

It looked to me like it was a friendly jab after a joking remark. I did not think it was an insult to Clilnton.

[dumpster_baby]

61. I just saw it, too. It was no big deal....

It was definitely a joking situation, and was not even much of a shove....

[Norquist Nemesis]

63. Bill was just letting them know

what he's got coming out in his new book. ;)

[Ophelia]

66. Perhaps 41's "overcompensating"

Because he doesn't measure up. Kind of like the proverbial Porsche driver. Male ego bullshit. President Clinton gave us 8 years of prosperity whereas 41 and 43 wrecked havoc with our economy. That's why they're both going to be one-termers. :)

[NecessaryOnslaught]

67. The Audio-transcript.

Clinton and God-poppy Bush (both speak at the same time): Illumanati Representin'.

Clinton: Rhodes Scholar!

God-Poppy: Skull and Bones bitch!

[Kinkistyle]

69. Big Dawg would break that evil f*ck in half

That old fart vs. Big Dawg? Get outta town. Bill could kill Bush the Smarter by just sitting on him.