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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:43 PM
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Support for Kerry by veterans surges.
Sorry to use a Newsmax source but it is hilarious that they can take a simple statistic and weave a fiction from it. In this story they say Kerry isn't supported by vets despite his recent ad campaign. But the reality is just the opposite, there has been a 5 point jump in support from veterans in just the last month, at the same time *'s support dropped by three points! It is Newsmax's good luck that its readers don't think critically.

Kerry still has much room for improvement, but he is making real ground.

Poll Stunner: Veterans Deserting Kerry

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/30/152658.shtml
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Kerry has made his military service the centerpiece of his campaign, almost never appearing on the stump without his Vietnam "Band of Brothers" by his side.

What's more, Democratic Party surrogates have repeatedly blasted Bush for not serving in Vietnam - going so far as to label him AWOL -a charge the media was only too happy to focus on for weeks on end.

But the tactics haven't worked. Buried deep inside the internals of a CBS poll released Wednesday was this stunning statistic: Veterans now prefer Bush over Kerry by a whopping 13 points - 54 to 41 percent.

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The Vet Wars

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/23/magazine/23KERRY.html?ei=5062&en=e7e076e90674edf1&ex=1085889600&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=

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Will Kerry's support from veterans be significant enough to matter in November? In terms of pure numbers, probably not. Although the nation's 26.4 million veterans do constitute a sizable voting bloc -- making up about 12 percent of the adult population and accounting for an even greater share of the electorate in crucial states like New Hampshire and Washington -- most of that voting bloc is likely to belong to President Bush. ''Veterans tend to be conservative, they tend to be Republicans,'' says Peter Feaver, a professor at Duke University who studies the political culture of the military. ''Kerry will probably be able to make some inroads because of his own service and because of the anger some veterans have at the Bush administration. I expect that he will do better among veterans than Gore-Lieberman or Clinton-Gore. But I still don't think he will get more veteran votes than Bush.'' Indeed, in a national survey that Feaver and his colleague Christopher Gelpi conducted in April, veterans favored Bush over Kerry 57 to 36 percent. (In the same poll, Kerry and Bush were tied among nonveterans, with 46 percent each.)

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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:47 PM
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1. Just spoke with a friend of mine in the Marines
He's an officer, and he cannot name one of his colleagues (along with himself) that will vote for *. Another friend, former Marine, has also seen the light and will be voting for Kerry.

The only military personnel who will * are the non-critical thinking ones who believe that war is good and Christ would approve...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:50 PM
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3. and don't forget the "Rolling Thunder"....
freepers...
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 04:04 PM
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7. Heard on the BBC
I was justing to the Beeb on shortwave. They were interviewing some Rolling Thunder chunder. He said Kerry turned against the soldiers in Vietnam by opposing the war when he returned. Three quarters of the motorcycle crowd were against Kerry. I guess they reckon there aren't enough names on that wall near the Lincoln Memorial.

Wasn't the original purpose of Rolling Thunder was to show support for improving the lot the vets? Yet a couple others in the radio interview chimed in support for the little coward who's cutting benfits and pay to current military personnel. Crikey.
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Senior citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:47 PM
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2. Just live long enough

to realize that * didn't send out enough troops, and didn't provide those he sent with enough bullets, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist....

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:53 PM
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4. Old, Faded bumper sticker "I was in Vietnam. Where was Clinton?"
yesterday. I went ballistic cuz I didn't have a magic marker on me to add: 'At Oxford, which he got into without notes from his daddy's pals!' Anyway, I see some righteous payback coming to all the rah rah boys when we rub shrub's nose in the pile he made instead of serving with honor and dignity as Kerry did.

Failure to serve as required wasn't enough pissing on the military for bush*. He loves to cut benefits too. Time to hold the 'party of personal responsibility' personally responsible.

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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:56 PM
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5. "So was Kerry"
that's what I would have written on the sticker.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 04:00 PM
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6. Also, unfortunitely...The Rolling Thunder vets (7,000) plus
their families endorsed B*. :wtf: are they thinking about?
Answered my own question...They don't think!
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 04:11 PM
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8. Who cares?
How many people vote one way or another due to endorsements?



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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 06:14 PM
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9. But I thought the biker dudes locked-up vets for *
If I were Bush I'm not so sure I'd want these people's endorsement.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 06:36 PM
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10. I'm a vet...I support Kerry
No motorcycle, but I do have a bicycle (it's made in Murka, too!).

Of the 5 vets I keep in contact with, 4 are voting for Kerry and the other hasn't voted since 1976.
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