A message to the Bushies, the freepers, and other phony patriots

[rumguy]

A special message to you human scum on this memorial day.

You supported an illegal, unjustified mess of a way.

You have blood on your hands.

You sold our world to war-mongers.

We will not forget.

We will not forgive.

There will be no quarter given. There will be no compromise offered.

You are the enemy. You are the enemy of our constitution. You are the enemy of this country. You are the enemy of this world.

You: the repigs, the freepers, all you flag-sucking wastes of human flesh are the enemy.

Your ideology will be destroyed. Your right-wing violence memes will be destroyed. In fact, it is happening right now. Your ideology is destroying itself.


I won't forget who you are and what you did.

History won't forget.

History is going to spit on your memory.

[Village Idiot]

1. Don't be shy...

Tell us how you really feel.....;^)

[rvgwinn]

2. so sorry

My thought waves went in 50 different directions when I read this. I don't know what to say to you. RELAX! why waste your energy on them?

[rpannier]

3. Nice...

What I find most amazing is that this administration not only screwed the left, the world and those who just want to be left alone, but they also screwed many of their supporters -- those republicans who's philosophy lies in economic, small government, less intrusive government. They were sold out by this administration. Why don't these people get more play time on the national news.
This is the WORST administration we have ever had in our history. If the founding fathers had foreseen this group achieving power they probably would have asked the king of England for some negotiated settlement.

[leesa]

25. Sorry, but those Republicans were NOT sold out. They went along

with the whole sad mess gleefully, rubbing their hands together with greed. It was child's play to see who and what Bush was. They didn't want to look, all they saw were dollar signs.

I have no respect for Republicans who now claim they were sold out.

[rpannier]

29. Disagree

I have too many friends who are republicans, who come from the middle and lower-middle classes who did NOT rub their hands togather with glee and see dolar signs (you paint with too broad a stroke). They feel screwed and are NOT voting for bush in the next election.

[OldGuy]

4. ...

So...

Honest disagreement over policy is not to be tolerated?

[rumguy]

5. honest, yes

dishonesty and lying, no...

look at the Bush ads running non-stop right now - total lies and distortion...

I'm just in a rare mood this morning - normally I'm not so melodramtic.

[Lefty48197]

10. Boy you sure have a liberal set of standards old guy

All the criminal acts by the Bush administration that preceded "Iraqi Freedom 2" can't possibly be referred to as "honest disagreements over policy" except by the most apologetic of the administrations apologists.

[tabasco]

11. This is not a policy debate.

1. Unjustified war in Iraq which detracts from fighting true threats to our security.
2. War profiteering on a massive scale, implicating the Vice President himself.
3. Mismanagement of the military. Replacement of all senior officers who have the moral courage to oppose war plans. Creation of command climate in which the Laws of War are disregarded, resulting in disgrace to our military and our Nation.
4. Poorly executed military operations. Insufficient ground forces dedicated to justified operations in Afghanistan, because of fixation on Iraq invasion. Short-sighted planning for Iraq campaign results in bloody occupation. Lack of justification for Iraq invasion results in little international support. World opinion of America at all-time low.
5. Greatest surplus in American history turned into greatest deficit. Republican strategy to borrow money from future generations so they can stay afloat today. Foreign investors own more and more of national debt. Confidence in American economy sinks.

THIS IS JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. YOUR BOYS ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY AND YOU CALL IT AN HONEST DEBATE! GET A GRIP!

[HFishbine]

14. "Honest?"

If only. Getting leaders who can advocate for your agenda honestly is the only hope for the republican party. Bush, Delay, Cheney, Rumsfeld et al are only undermining any credibility your proposals may have by relying on desception and dissembling as their standard operating proceedure.

[datasuspect]

16. honest?

whenever the neocons and repugs can get honest there might be room for debate.

it's funny. i notice an almost cult-like adherence to ideology in the neocon movement.

they react with hostility, childishness, and meanness toward those who disagree with their agenda.

how do you have an honest discussion about policy disagreement with a "true believer" who actually thinks that the "idiot son of an asshole" was led by god to the presidency?

how do you have a discussion with someone whose stockpile of rhetorical skills consists of logical fallacies and fascist invective?

geez

[sendero]

19. I find it especially telling..

... that the "god brought us Bush*" crew are actually suggesting that god would use election fraud to get his way.

The implications are staggering.

[truth2power]

17. You're calling what's been done to this country

"honest disagreement over policy"?

Umm....ok. And the treatment of Iraqi prisoners was just a "frat prank." :eyes:

[datasuspect]

23. here is an example of "honest disagreement"

s.f. gallery owner attacked over prisoner abuse exhibit.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040529/480/fx10205292255

"eLori Haigh, a North Beach district gallery owner, bears a painful reminder of the nation's unresolved anguish over the incidents at Abu Ghraib - a black eye delivered by an unknown assailant who apparently objected to the painting that depicts US soldiers torturing Iraqi prisoners, San Francisco, Calif., May 29, 2004. (AP Photo/Jeff Chiu)"

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

24. Awww...

Fweeper go bye-bye. So sad. _|_

[H2O Man]

6. Did you eat

grumpy dog food this morning? Your last two posts seem to have hints of anger in them. Today is a good day, and all democrats have good reason to be in good moods.

[rumguy]

7. I know, sorry - I'm actually in a good mood

just melodramatic today I guess...

[Gildor Inglorion]

12. Don't ever change!

We Democrats have been polite and tepid for far too long, always willing to seek compromise, playing fair, trying to see the other person's point of view...and look where it's got us. Desperate times demand desperate measures - plus a healthy dose of righteous indignation. To tell the truth, in my heart of hearts, I'd like to see the solution the French found ca. 1789-1793 applied to the chimp and all his cronies, but I'm afraid it never will happen. And, come to think of it, we'd probably wind up with an American Bonaparte.

[Dying Eagle]

21. Don't Apoligize

We should all be in this mood everyday of our lives till the Neo-cons are out of power in this country. Their is no reason to be nice anymore.

THIS IS CIVIL WAR!

[Mari333]

8. Thanks.

We wont be cooking out on Memorial Day. We will be sitting here and wishing Michael wasnt at Abu Ghraib, wishing we didnt have to worry about whether he is going to survive Iraq, wondering how we will pay this years every increasing taxes, wondering where we can both find decent paying jobs.
We wont be celebrating, stuffing our faces with burgers and drinking beer. We wont be driving anywhere, the gas prices are too high.
We will be sitting here hoping Michael emails us from where he is, and hope he survives today.
There will be no celebration here.
My father was a WW2 army air corps sergeant who flew 3 missions over Italy .
He would hate Bush.
He is dead, I celebrate his life every day, I dont need a corporate holiday to do so.
I have no respect for anyone out there who waves a flag and ballyhoos about Bush and this fraudulent war.
Those people live a lie.
I wont live a lie.
Michael wont live a lie.
My husband wont live a lie.
The only memorial I will celebrate is when I see Bush and all his gang thrown in jail.
The whole lot of them.

[Longhorn]

20. I'll keep Michael in my thoughts.

My son is a Marine but he is still in MOS school at 29 Palms. I hope you hear from Michael and that he remains safe. I share your feelings exactly, including honoring my late father who served in the Navy in World War II. Take care.

[newyawker99]

26. Hi Longhorn!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[mopaul]

9. fuck it, and fuck them

i remember a scene in the beginning of the movie 'the deer hunter'.
men were in a bar getting drunk, and they spot a veteran sitting at the bar drinking alone, in uniform. one of the guys approaches the soldier and thanks him for the great job the boys are doing in vietnam. the soldiers only response was, 'fuck it'.

the drunk guy got angry, but the soldier stood his ground. he had been there, they had not.

the whole bush history, daddybush and jr. too, is nothing but slaughter of innocents for profit. fuck that and fuck them

[wmccarver]

13. "There will be no quarter given. There will be no compromise offered..."

Being new to this dandy forum, I chose this post to tag on a thought of mine. While I tend to be less...oh how shall I say? Direct?...No, defiant? yeah...in the main, I can't find operational fault with any of rumguy's sentiments. He makes sense, if but a tad too incitefully for my old body. He does, nonetheless, segway well with my thoughts.

My first post, in the editorial thread, replied to an article about a Navy lifer's in-her-face tirade toward a person's public display of protest against the Iraqi war. Then last night, I saw on my local news a segment about an artist in San Francisco being beaten for diplaying an artwork depicting American soldiers' abuse in Abu Ghraib.

I say these beligerent pests can be beaten without bloodshed, though I admit the potential will still exist. Bait them and trap them. Those of you with technical expetise can stage an event similar to the ones mentioned above replete with discrete cameras and microphones to record the inevitable reactions (I would suggest the more such POVs, the better). If accomplished with the accuracy of recording evidence, after several of these brutes have been duly brought up on charges, the atmosphere of advantage shifts. If not in their emerging reluctance to commit acts of violence in the first place, then surely in the drama of trial that may or may not represent democracy and the rule of law.

[NC_Nurse]

15. Honest disagreement MY ASS!

Bush has ramrodded his agenda through on every front, domestic and foreign. Shamelessly using 9/11 and religion to pursue his RW goals and putting us all in greater danger and with fewer individual rights.

A lot of what he has done on the domestic front has been pushed through on the quiet without ANY debate, much less "honest" debate - like his RW judge appointments during congressional recesses, his changing of the results of scientific study reports to suit him and his greedy, fundie cohorts!

They are sickening, power-grabbing and arrogant and deserve to be prosecuted for the myriad of deceptions they have participated in.


:mad:

[OldGuy]

18. Honest disagreement MY ASS!

So, I'm not allowed to believe you are wrong?

[Paradise]

22. YOU can "believe" anything you wish!

However, if that's what you believe, You WON'T find much camaraderie in
"Welcome to DU"! :hi:

[0007]

27. Memo to the freepers;

I ask for no quarter
and I give no quarter...
Captain Blith

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

28. It's a moral issue to me now

Honest disagreement?

Let me put it to you this way: I seriously question the moral fiber of ANYONE who supports this immoral, unjust invasion of another country. They did not provoke us. They did not attack us. They did not provoke or attack any of our allies. Hell, they didn't even provoke or attack any of their neighbors. They were a fourth-rate military power.

The people running our country made their conclusions then cherry-picked "information" to fit their foregone conclusions.

Which wouldn't be SO horrible if it didn't involve the DEATH of thousands of innocents and the death of hundreds of our soldiers and the financial RAPE of present and future generations of Americans.

Honest disagreement? This was was and is immoral. Unjust. I didn't think my country operated that way. At least, I thought we learned our lesson from Vietnam.

It's disgusting.