reagan lied 'under oath' 150 times & WASN'T impeached

[mopaul]

he was superman. they called him the teflon president. and he didn't lie about no blowjob, he lied about selling arms to iran when it was an act of treason to do so. he lied about hijacking funds to send to the contras after it was an act of treason to do so.

bill clinton tells one little lie and gets impeached.

just another history lesson about this grrrreeeeeaaaaaat man they are eulogizing as if he were god.

[ronatchig]

1. I was raised

to not speak ill of the dead but in this case I will say
Farewell to bad garbage.

[mopaul]

2. reagan started the phony war on drugs & jailed millions

our prisons are bursting with harmless pot smokers and sorry junkies who are really political prisoners of a system that began under reagan.

just say no was nancy's great contribution. all while reagan oversaw the smuggling of mega tons of cocaine into america to sell and make a profit and send to central america for the murder of thousands of innocents.

[mopaul]

3. reagan made it acceptable to hate the poor and disabled

he said that most homeless folks WANT to be out on the streets, so he released millions onto the streets to prove the point.
he cut benefits for the disabled, which i personally was affected by.
i had to PROVE that i was disabled, i was born disabled, but i was refused ss benefits for the whole 8 years of reagan. i didn't get them till clinton took office, swear to god.

the poor are now seen as a burden on us all, and rush reminds them every day.

[soothsayer]

4. At least he hated Bush. He was told to take him as VP, but he didn't like

the guy. Gotta give him that much credit.

[okieinpain]

5. he didn't lie. we actually know now that he didn't remember

[mopaul]

6. i watched him lie, he could remember passages by lincoln

but not a damn thing about iran contra. to a large extent, his senility was overplayed and i guess now he gets away with lying under oath over it.

and if he was senile and not aware of what was going on around him, he should've been removed from office.

[okieinpain]

8. I'm not sure but isn't that one of the symptoms of Alzheimer's.

I agree that he should have been removed from office because of the effects of the Alzheimer's. but there is no way in hell anyone in government at that time, would have admitted to the people that someone like that was in charge of the country.

[Zynx]

15. He couldn't have had alzheimer's that long ago.

He would have died years ago if he did.

[niceypoo]

16. he didnt need alzheimers then....he was a drooling idiot

Drooling idiots are born stupid

[H2O Man]

7. The Iran-Contra scandal

totally discredited the Reagan Administration. Although his VP was likely more in charge of the "policies," Reagan was a guilty-as-sin co-conspirator, and should have been impeached and sent to jail. I note that Senator Kerry played the lead role in exposing the scandal.

[Amaya]

9. Reagan

and his cronies robbed Americans and their savings and loans of millions.

The Reagan presidency had an average of 3 indictments a week and over 200 convictions for felonies and it continues with the f**ks that are in charge today.

[YIMA]

10. Thank You, mopaul

Thank you for being honest in your utter hatred for Reagan and for expresing your joy at his death. Thank you for your posts exposing Bush and 9/11. Thank you for all you do. To me, you are the embodiment of the heart and soul of the Democratic party and progressives. May your light continue to shine.

A toast to you. :beer: :party: :toast: :yourock:

[mopaul]

12. all i ask is an occasional kind word, & crust of bread

thank you yima. i know i've pissed off a lot of people too, but my pent up rage could not be held back.

[underpants]

11. PBS timeline

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/timeline/index_5.html

1987

February 2: Reagan testifies to the Tower Board for a second time. His testimony is inconsistent and confused. The Board pointed out Reagan hadn’t known about August shipment of anti-tank missiles, but Reagan had said he DID know. When asked for an explanation, Reagan picked up a briefing memo he had been provided and read aloud: "If the question comes up at the Tower Board meeting, you might want to say that you were surprised."

February 20: A Reagan memo to the Tower Board reads: "I don’t remember, period." "I’m trying to recall events that happened eighteen months ago, I’m afraid that I let myself be influenced by others’ recollections, not my own.... The only honest answer is to state that try as I might, I cannot recall anything whatsoever about whether I approved an Israeli sale in advance or whether I approved replenishment of Israeli stocks around August of 1985. My answer therefore and the simple truth is, ‘I don’t remember, period.’"

February 26: The Tower Commission report is delivered to Reagan. The report could not link Reagan to diversion of funds from Iran to the Contras. But it concluded that Reagan, confused and unaware, allowed himself to be misled by dishonest staff members who organized the trade of arms to Iran for hostages held in Lebanon and pursued a secret war against the Nicaraguan government. The report charges that Reagan had failed to "insist upon accountability & performance review, " allowing the National Security Council process to collapse. Reagan’s approval rating is down to 42%.

March 4: On national television, Reagan acknowledges mistakes on Iran-Contra. "A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions tell me that’s true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not. As the Tower Board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages. This runs counter to my own beliefs, to administration policy, and to the original strategy we had in mind. There are reasons why it happened, but no excuses. It was a mistake." Reagan’s approval rating rebounds to 51%.

http://www.bushtimes.com/cgi-bin/iowa/news/record.html?record=1278

Reagan administration era convictions in the Iran-contra scandal:
14 (two overturned on appeal) Reagan official convicted for illegal lobbying: 1 (Lyn Nofziger, White House political director) Reagan officials convicted in Housing and Urban Development scandal: 16
Total Reagan era convictions: 31
Bush I pardons of those indicted and/or convicted of Iran-contra crimes: 7 (5 convicted, one about to receive sentence, Caspar Weinberger about o stand trial)
Bush II official appointed to National Security Council who plead guilty to ran-contra crime and was pardoned by Bush I: 1 (Elliot Abrams)

[Tatiana]

14. Thanks for that refresher, underpants.

I am sorry for Reagan's family, for the loss of someone they cared about, but this man neither deserves to be celebrated nor canonized for his service to America. He neither served our nation in any great way, nor did he do anything for the average American. At best he was incompetent and that is no compelling reason for calling him a good President.

We castigate the current administration for incompetence. Why should Reagan be any different?

[indepat]

13. Easy to understand: Repukes will do any/everything to destroy a Democrat

President and require that nothing a Repuke President does to ever be questioned, want to give a Repuke President more power and authority than any major totalitarian dictator of the 20th century had, and anyone with the temerity to question any policy, any action, any aggressive war of a Repuke President is an un-American unpatriotic traitor and hence the enemy who must be silenced, if not destroyed. See, now that wasn't so hard.