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Goose3five Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 02:57 PM
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Help Keep the Assault Weapons Ban in Place!
Five years ago Tom Mauser's 15-year-old son Daniel Mauser was one of 13 people killed at Columbine High School by two students. One of them used an illegal assault weapon.

The national Assault Weapons Ban automatically expires at the end of the summer. Congress must renew this ban or military-style assault weapons will be back on the street and available for sale in our neighborhoods. We cannot let this happen. We have to put pressure on Congress to ACT NOW, you can help by signing this petition.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:02 PM
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1. Thanks! I urge all to sign as well...
This is a win-win issue for the Demcorats...
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:07 PM
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2. There is no Assault weapons ban.
Never has been.

Want an ak-47? Go to your local gun store and buy brand new one, manufactured last month.

There is a ban on certain attachments, such as knife mounts, verticle/folding grips, flash hiders and threaded barrels.

after the "AWB Ban" was passed, manufacturers quickly complied by removing the offending attachments.

However the guns, minus the attachments are no more, or no less lethal than the guns with the attachments.



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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:14 PM
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3. I HATE GUNS. But what happens if all the RWingers buy the guns and
the liberals have none??? This is getting really frightening, folks.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:18 PM
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6. Exactly, Little Apple 81. Exactly.
Eve if you HATE guns, buy one. Buy some ammo, too. Learn how to use it.

Like an insurance policy, feel free to be ecstatic with joy at never having to use it.

But, like an insurance policy, you will definitely regret it if you need it and it isn't there.

The Busheviks have shown us all that IT CAN HAPPEN HERE! I think you aren't alone. Many anti-gun Liberals (and it is a noble appellation in case you think I am running from the title) are coming to realize this and are modifying their beliefs accordingly.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:17 PM
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4. Five years ago? I thought the AWB was passed ten
years ago. Looks like the AWB didn't stop Mauser or anyone else at Columbine from being killed.

What exactly is a military-style assault weapon anyway? After all, no military in the world issues any of the weapons covered by the AWB.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:19 PM
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7. Wow, you sure do get around, Feebs!
Can a gun thread be posted in GD and you'll miss it?

Not possible, IMHO.

:evilgrin:

As I said before, hardcore anti-gunners notwithstanding, the Left has lost it's taste for Gun Control now that the Bushevik menace is so clearly staring us in the face.
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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:25 PM
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9. I try and hit them all.
I was lucky on this one, I had just replied to the other NRA one and noticed this one right at the top of the page. I can't resist an AWB thread. I'm shocked no one has claimed we need to keep machine guns and bazookas off the streets yet, at least that I've seen. There's only a few replies so far, though.

I think it's sort of funny that the only way the AWB will be renewed is if the Republicans pass it and the Republican president signs it. Not that I think it can't or won't happen, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they did. I wonder if all the gun grabbers will flock to vote Republican if Bush renews it.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:18 PM
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5. Why?
Why should I support curtailing my Constitutional rights?

My condolences go out to the Mauser family. Banning TEC-DC9s, however, obviously didn't save Daniel Mauser. Keeping the assual weapon ban in place threatens our ability to unseat Bush in November.

It's time to scrap the ban. Maybe you can go after poorly-made "assault weapons" with the same strategy used against "Saturday night specials," but don't try to deny you fellow Americas the right to own a Springfield M1 or a Colt AR-15.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:22 PM
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8. Where is the petition text?
I can't find it anywhere on tomspetition.org. Can anyone help?
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:26 PM
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10. The AWB is a bunch of bull.
If you want gun control you have to do it right, and actually enforce it. The AWB is just a big pork barrel.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:29 PM
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11. An Uzi up your liberal nose...
Edited on Mon Jul-12-04 03:30 PM by chiburb
Morford's take:

Machine guns. Aren't they just the cutest things?

And isn't it just so sweet and fall-down uproarious how the NRA and all its knuckle-draggin' right-wing pals in the U.S. Senate are all cheering right this minute, as the much-loathed 10-year-old ban on assault weapons, the one outlawing Uzis and TEC-9 semiautomatics and AK-47s and all other way-cool manly guns that have no other purpose in this world than to annihilate crap at 200 rounds per minute, is about to expire?

Because, get this: The ban will not be renewed. It's true. Even if that commie liberal Feinstein somehow gets it passed in the Senate, the NRA lobby has promised to keep it from ever coming up for a vote in the House, and the law will just expire and they will all cheer and slather each other in gun-barrel polish and go off and shoot stuff, because that's the only thing that seems to give life any meaning.

Isn't that great? To hell with logic and to hell with your kids' safety and to hell with even trying to prevent moron gangbangers and terrorist wanna-bes and imbecilic white supremacists from easily getting their hands on a nice AK-47 that can mow down a schoolyard full of tots in 10 seconds flat. Instead: Down with liberal scum who would take away our God-given right to bear nasty ultraviolent weaponry that no one anywhere can justify the existence of. Go, NRA!....

(click here to read the rest)
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2004/06/30/notes063004.DTL&nl=fix

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FeebMaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:31 PM
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12. The AWB has nothing to do with machine guns. (nt)
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 03:38 PM
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13. "One of them used an illegal assault weapon. "

I would be more convinced by the anti-gun lobby if it would stop using such blatantly illogical arguments intended to evoke an emotional response. It reminds me far too much of the anti-choice crowd.

I mean no offense by this. I believe there is room for an argument concerning certain restrictions on gun ownership. But that argument is not aided by this kind of appeal.

It is truly tragic that those people died and that others die every day in gun related violence. The circumstances surrounding their deaths point to a vast array of issues that our society needs to address but has not in its seemingly endless search for quick fixes. (Irony intended.) The fact remains that the assault weapons ban did not save Danial Mauser, and using his name to support its retention is insulting to his memory since it leaves unexplored and unaddressed the underlying causes of his death.

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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-04 04:41 PM
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14. That last sentence says volumes
Didn't Moore try to address those issues in Bowling for Columbine?
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