OMG. DemocracyNow! has videotaped calls re Idema to Boykins office

[lostnfound]

Anyone interested in the Jack Idema story (the supposed 'freelance' torture guy in Afghanistan) needs to check out DN! today.

DN! is very brave.

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. Got a link, this sounds interesting?

I thought the US said they had nothing to do with Idema? Yeah, right.

[lostnfound]

2. It will be on democracynow.org later by 11 am or so.

Houston public access channel 17. But you can listen streaming live to KPFT.org at 9 am Houston time (90 minutes from now) (or perhaps it's on NOW at WBAI, I'm not sure).

[latebloomer]

4. On WBAI it starts at 9 AM Eastern time n/t

[Ganja Ninja]

21. How could anyone have ever possibly believed that lie?

It doesn't make any sense. Who would or could go to Afghanistan and set up a "freelance" counter terrorist operation? The whole notion is crazy and impossible. Only a government approved operation of this type could operate there. Any other claim is too fantastic to be believed.

[da_chimperor]

3. I think Idema knew they'd deny all knowledge of him

so he decided to have some insurance against that.

[RivetJoint]

5. How do you video tape

a phone call? I'd think you'd only get one side of the conversation that way unless a speaker phone was used...then how do you prove who's on the other side of the phone?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

6. How do you think law enforcement proves who they tape?

[RivetJoint]

7. I'm asking

how do you VIDEO tape a call? I can see taping BOTH sides of a conversation with a phone tap or tape recorder or something, but how do you VIDEO tape BOTH sides of a phone converstaion?

[buddhamama]

10. it can be done

using video/satellite communications equipment.

a previous employer (a communications co) had a tv/vcr unit which allowed for video and audio to be sent via satellite. for their use
(meetings with remote offices) only the audio was taped, but video was possible, if the need was there.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. Turn on the speaker phone

and video tape yourself talking to the person.

Make sure at the beginning, you get the person to identify themself.

Hi, is this General Boykin?

Yes.....

[RivetJoint]

12. But ANYONE could say "yes, this is"

the video tape doesn't prove anything.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. Ask him specific questions

that only he would know the answers too.

Then make him talk long enough, that they can do a voice ID.

A voice is like a fingerprint. There are certain ways people accent things that are unique to each person.

[RivetJoint]

14. Did he actually talk to Boykin?

Or call Boykin's office?

This is VERY interesting.

[lostnfound]

26. They say no; but definitely Boykin's office

where Boykin's assistant says that the 'Wanted' posters have gone up in Afghanistan (Idema wanted) to 'build a firewall' between Boykin and Idema.

[rooboy]

8. Watch Democracy Now.

They show Idema talking on the phone, and play the audio of both sides of the conversation as recorded from the phone call.

You just put the audio with the video, that's all.

[RivetJoint]

9. How do they know who he is talking to?

What was being said?

[rman]

15. want to know what was being said?

www.democracynow.org

[RivetJoint]

Don't have RP

Can you tell me some of what was said? To whom did he speak?

[buddhamama]

16. it is possible to record a conversation

hearing both sides.

how do conference calls happen? a speaker phone, maybe.
have you ever heard of a video phone?

[RivetJoint]

17. I'm sure it is possible ;that's why I asked

Was this a video phone conversation?

[buddhamama]

18. i haven't heard or viewed the show yet,

so i can't say. i don't know what type of equipment Idema was using.
i can say however, that unless Boykin was employing a video phone-hookup, his image would not be present on the tape.

[RivetJoint]

19. Agree

I'm wondering what was said and by whom. I can't view the program. Was hoping someone could provide some info.

[NinetySix]

20. You can download DN as an mp3 file

I never watch it, just listen to it. I don't find that the RealPlayer video is particularly reliable.

[buddhamama]

22. check with the DN site in a bit

for a transcript of the segment. the site has audio/video archives, if at a later time you are able to access them to hear/view the show.

link http://democracynow.org/

[RivetJoint]

23. Thank you

I guess no one is listening to it?

[buddhamama]

24. i plan to,

DN isn't on where i live till later in the day.

if you're not able to access the archives,etc.,
and you're still interested, send me a PM with your questions,
and i'll provide as much relevent info as i am able
to help answer them after i have heard the show.

[lostnfound]

25. Also NYDaily News (Juan Gonzalez) article today

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/story/234746p-201641c.html

I started an LBN for the article at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=859011&mesg_id=859011