Would you rather see Shrub win this time?

[napi21]

Before you slaughter me, listen!

Bush has created a BIG mess in Iraq. It's going to be a nightmare to fix! Why not let him have to fix ONE problem in his life, all alone!

I would rather see a house & senate majority!

I want the Dems to get back in the WH, but I'm not sure this is the right time!!!

[punpirate]

1. Well, he's had four years to make things...

... better and he's made things worse.

The first rule of holes is that if you find yourself in one, stop digging.

Getting rid of Bush at least stops the digging.

Cheers.

[Eric J in MN]

2. No, I don't want Bush to nominate 3 Supreme Court Justices.

I'd prefer if the Republicans kept both houses of Congress and the Demcocrats took the White House.

[Kierkegaard]

3. Once the worst depression in history hits, who will give a crap who's

president? We can't wait 4 more years to start a major cleanup operation

[StupidFOX]

4. Why not both?

If we win:

Presidency - Bush can't pull any more crap, but we can't get Congress moving.

Congress - Bush can't pull his crap, but he'll veto anything Dems do.

Both - the sky is the limit.


BTW, we owe it to the Iraqi people not to let Bush screw it up any more than he already has.

[napi21]

16. Good point. I just hate a Dem have to clean up his mess!

[Stryguy]

34. All we ever do is clean up their mess

[wysi]

5. We...

... owe it to the world to get rid of this criminal and his cronies.

[robertarctor]

6. Dumb idea.

Why not cut to the chase and reanimate Hitler's bones to do the job?

[rwheeler31]

7. I don't like cleaning up other peoples mess.

We know now they will not take care and we have to take over and fix this mess or we will not be America.

[liberalmuse]

8. HELL NO!!!

I'm sorry, but he's not going to fix anything. He will make things infinitely worse and by the time he's through, his mess will be unfixable. I really believe that Kerry will be able to get us on the right track and I guess we Americans will maybe have to sacrifice a little and actually participate in our democracy if we want it in working order again.

[napi21]

19. You misunderstand me. I don't think he can fix things at all!

I just don't want a Dem to have to go through what it will take! If we had a Dem HOuse & Senate, he would be restricted to what damage he could do, but still suffer the consequences of his actions.

[Zinfandel]

40. There's a bigger picture!

[AlFrankenFan]

9. No...because even though I'm not the biggest fan of Kerry...

we can't afford it. I know it sounds like the same thing everyone repeats, but we all know how well Bush can fix problems. He can't even give himself the heimlich maneuver, or avoid choking at his age in the first place. To give him four more years, yeah, maybe at the end of it, we can burn him at the stake or hang him or something. But I know what you're talking about. Sometimes it seems like that would be better cause Kerry ain't much of an improvement. But four more years gives them more time to screw everything the hell up...more so.

[whistle]

10. If Bush is given another four years, he will use nuclear weapons....

...because the insane bastard really believes he is doing Gods mission. The sooner we get someone who can stop the insanity the better it will be for all of the world. Bush needs to be placed in a straight jacket and padded cell.

[madaboutharry]

11. Nooooooo!

4 years of John Ashcroft, possibly 3 or maybe even 4 Supreme Court Justices, no checks and balances to stop the gutting of our democracy, god only knows how many more wars....need I go on? To say that our nation can not survive as we know it is not being melodramatic. I want this loser to go back to his pig farm in Crawford and be remembered as a loser. I want to read all the books about this little fart that historians like Douglas Brinkley are just waiting to write. No, I don't want anything but for him to be humiliated on Nov. 2nd.

[lgardengate]

12. Don't Know BUT you bring up interesting points

If Iraq ends badly it could be Years till the Repubs win again.That wouldnt be bad.


I want a senate and house majority too.

[StupidFOX]

17. If Iraq ends badly

It's terrorist country. He stirred up a volatile cauldron and expected it not to explode in his face. It's our job to clean it up before it ruins us all.

[dietdpfan]

13. Too Dangerous...

We need our troops home NOW!

[serryjw]

14. IF we don't get the WH this time.....there WON'T BE A NEXT TIME! n/t

[LisaLynne]

18. I agree ...

Maybe I've been wearing a tinfoil hat for almost 4 years now, but I have this terrible feeling that if we don't have a fair election this time and get * out, we will never get another chance. Voting will be abolished for one reason or another, or they'll get electronic voting machines installed everywhere and just pretend like we're still electing people ... We have to get him out. I think we have a choice right now. Either we can go into a new phase of our country, where we start living up to our ideals again, peacefully or not. Getting * out now at least gives us a chance of doing it peacefully.

[serryjw]

25. *PRETEND*

Funny you used the same word I did explaining to someone that this is our last chance. They will nver *cancell* elections but we all pretend we are REALLY electioning our leaders.....similar to what is happening in Iraq!

***EXPLAIN to me the 'tinfoil" stuff..why does veryone use it? I assume the koolaid" referr to Jim Jones?

[donheld]

15. I've always had a secret longing

that the Dems take both the senate and congress, and bush get re-elected. Just so they could impeach his ass like he really deserves

[napi21]

21. YES! Only thins time, impeachment will be for good cause!

Thanks. At least someone here sees my point!

You wouldn't need to worry about 4 SC judges, they wouldn't be passed! The only thing he would be able to do, if at all, is executive orders, and even those could be challenged.

I really in my heart hope Kerry wins, but there's that little thing in the back of my head that says....pay back is a bitch!

[ibegurpard]

20. We have a better chance at taking the White House than we do

the congress. The Senate is a possibility but you can forget the House.

[Terran]

22. What even made you think that

Bush was going to clean anything up if he gets elected?

Thanks but no thanks, I'll take anyone but Bush!

[napi21]

29. NO NO! I don't think he can clean anything up!

I just don't want Kerry to have to do it! Remember, I said I'd rather have contron of the house & senate. Shrub would be restricted! Sure, he could do executive orders, but that's all!

[Maestro]

23. No we need the executive branch

Bush and Cheney in power without having to worry about re-election scares me more.

[RoyGBiv]

24. Two Words

Supreme Court

Duration: Indefinite

You're already looking ahead, which is good, but look even further ahead, and broaden the context. If Shrub gets in again, his legacy lives on even longer than it already will. And, he will fix nothing.

I may in fact be true that the mess is so disasterous at this point that Kerry can only begin start fixing it, thus leading to a very tough time of it in '08.

But, those justice appointments are coming up. The mess will only get worse if they are Bush appointees.

[Hello_Kitty]

26. Only if impeachment and prosecution were GUARANTEED

AND Cheney died from his long overdue and much deserved massive coronary AND all the other neo-cons in the administration developed a rare fatal anal dysentary and died AND all the other non-moderate repukes turned down the Presidency so that only a cool one like Chafee or a Dem took the spot. That's about the only way.

[nickinSTL]

50. Actually...

It would require being certain that Bush and Cheney were gone.

Once they're both gone, the Speaker of the House is next in line. In a Democratic-controlled House, it'd be a Dem. (Nancy Pelosi?)

Once the Dem was Pres, any of the prior Admin that they didn't want to maintain could be replaced. Hopefully, Bush and Cheney would take the other neo-cons down with them, anyway.

[Zero Gravitas]

27. NO

As much as I'd like * to take, for the first time in his life, full responsibility for his GIANT FUCKUP, its just not worth the cost. Who knows what these evil bastards would do with another four years and not having to worry about re-election?

Unfortunately President Kerry is going to get crapped on by the Pukes and the SCLM for whatever goes wrong in Iraq and it will hurt him and the Democratic Party, but that would still be better than 4 more months of Dumbass Dubya, let alone four more YEARS of this shit.

[IADEMO2004]

28. No I'd rather postpone the end times until I see grandchildren

and then I sure as hell don't want some a-hole like him taking on the world to compensate for a tiny penis.

[unkachuck]

30. No...

Many of us will never live long enough to see our country again....

[Rowdyboy]

31. Supreme Court appointments

And don't give me the bs that the Democratic senate would block it. With Lieberman, Bill Nelson and a few others, you can't trust them.

[Rageneau]

32. I think Bush HAS to be re-elected...

Otherwise, all the cataclysmic destruction, war, famine, apocalypse and Armageddon predicted in the Bible won't take place in our lifetimes.

And we sure wouldn't want to miss THAT, huh?

[Cronus Protagonist]

33. How's Darth Nader lookin' to ya?

Sounds like you might find some kindred spirits among his legal team.

http://www.factcheck.com - recommended by Dick Cheney



"So I don't worry about, and people shouldn't
worry about a draft. . . I think we're in good
shape, I really do. And, if not, we'll -- I'll address
the nation. But I don't see any need to right now."
- G. W. Bush (Source: The Whitehouse)

[Kenneth ken]

35. I think I understand why you ask

some days I look at this country and think it would <maybe> be good in the long run if the GOP had another four years. Because I think they would manage to bankrupt the nation, completely alienate any last vestiges of respect and compassion the rest of the world may have for us, and in doing all that there would be absolutely no way of escaping the fact that it was GOP failure. That might be the end of the GOP for decades or more.

But, then I think of the damage such a scenario would create, and how difficult it would be to rebuild, and am daunted. So, sometimes I think about a Shrub win, but can't ever bring myself to actually wish or hope for such.

PS - whatever the possibility of recapturing the Senate, I think the House is out of reach; too many non-contested seats.

[Kanary]

36. Suggestion: Call Al Franken or Randi Rhoades and ask this question.

After getting your head handed to you, post the results here.

Kanary

[Fed Up]

37. don't be fooled thinking "Bush wins, Congress is ours in 06".

That is what I thought when the chimp was sworn in.

A bird in the hand (a Kerry win) is worth two in the Bush.

[LaPera]

38. A big YES!

Let BushCo take the economic shit, that they created...because taxes will have to raised, and the republicans can then AGAIN point the finger at the Democrats (because of the absolute debt mess we are in) and they may very well win 2008...because, you know we'll hear the same old lies-- "tax and spend democrats" in which they are actually picking up after the sickening mess that will be left by the greedy lying corporate republicans who raided our Treasury for personal gain...and believe it or not so many people will buy it, and people here will actually vote for a republican. Same old fucking circle, they have absolutely no concept of ideology and can easily be swayed, they fucking believe they are voting for the man---and ideology will take a backseat.

Except---for the appointees on the US Supreme Court, (that will indeed have an effect our country for decades to come)...I say let Bush and the fucking do nothing republican congress take the shit.

But ONLY because of the potential Supreme Court nominees, that is so incredible fucking important...I will vote for Kerry.

[LittleClarkie]

39. There's a guy at work who thinks like that

I say no, but his reasoning is that there will be no excuses, no deniability if Bush is left to fuck up the world the rest of the way.

If the consequences weren't so dire, I'd say sure, go for it.

But these are people's lives we're talking about. No, we must vote the bastard out. Out! Out! Out!

[ogradda]

41. the big problem with that

is we could give him a hundred years he wouldn't fix it. it's like the guy who touched something it turned to gold? except what * touches all turns to shit.

[illuminaughty]

42. This is beyond democrat and republican

This is why people like Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky are endorsing Kerry. This group in the WH should have been impeached long ago.

It is not a matter of W. being taught a lesson and having to learn to fix this "mess".

This "mess" is an ongoing string of atrocities that this administration has no intentions of fixing. Far from it. They are ready to cross the border into the next quagmire. It is unimaginable what the world has had to suffer under this group's agenda.

Sorry, I understand the concept, but, hey, there are so many republicans stepping up to condemn these neocons that it is obvious they don't serve anyone's party but their own private one of global domination.

[porphyrian]

43. Veto power = stalemate = bad idea - n/t

[Domitan]

44. Too much at stake!!!

Bush and company are far too dangerous for your country and the world to be allowed to retain power for 4 years.

[OneTwentyoNine]

45. Oh yeah I want four more years of Bush for sure!!!

God...now click on the box with the X in it....Stupid...


David

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

46. It's not about who gets what here...

It's about how the world sees us. I don't doubt that four more years of Bush could unite Europe, the Russians, and the Chinese against us. We need to beat him just to prove we hate him.

[mmonk]

47. Going on the current rate of damage

to this country, absolutely not. Besides, what guarantee do we have that we will be able to vote next time around?

[Bridget Burke]

48. No.

I want it all. And I don't see how giving up on the Presidency would guarantee gaining the House & Senate.

Let's consider the Supreme Court & those pesky Executive Orders. There will be a giant mess to clean up, but putting it off won't help.

[AmerDem]

49. This has to be one of the craziest subject headings I have seen!

Where does something like this come from? Geeze!