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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:03 PM
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No doubt, Bush is currently using cocaine.
I lived in an area where cocaine use was rampant. I've seen the "crack whores" down at the laundromat, trying to pick up a trick. I've seen the guys walking to and from the trailer park down the street, where they apparently buy their rocks. Almost to a man/woman, the "jaw action" is universal. Something about cocaine causes these addicts to move their jaws in a horizontal direction, back and forth. Recently, during the debate, and during one of his campaign speeches, I saw the very same movement on the face of our president. I've never seen it before, and I've watched him many times, very closely. Bush is on cocaine. He is on drugs. He's NEVER done this before, and all of a sudden he's doing it, apparently involuntarily. Bush is on cocaine, my friends. The man is on drugs.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:06 PM
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1. I find it hard to believe
I have no doubt Bush used cocaine in the past, but there is no way his handlers would allow him access to it now.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:16 PM
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11. people thought that about Clinton & Monica, too...
It actually would not surprise me at all for Bush* to slip what with all the stress he must be under.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:22 PM
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14. Clinton was a REAL president
he wasn't handled like a puppet the way Boy George is
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:23 PM
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16. yeah, but Clinton was in charge.
he could do what he wanted to do -- usually the right thing, sometimes the stupid thing.

I don't believe that bush is in control, and I don't think he'd have access to cocaine.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:57 PM
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25. why not? there is medical cocaine and other stimulants
I would find it astounding if the U.S. president's doctor couldn't get him whatever drugs necessary to keep him from going into withdrawal. What I saw in the debates is a man who was very visibly impaired.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:07 PM
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28. he is drugged up in some way
he's just not snorting lines
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:23 PM
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17. How hard would it be.....
for Bunnypants to get coke from his brother Jeb?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:12 PM
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29. He's been on a really short leash for a couple of months
and consequently his speech and his gait have improved considerably. Being kept controlled and sober hasn't done a thing for his irritability, though, and that shows thorugh quite clearly.

As for the cocaine, I think he's probably done lines whenever he could. However, the duration of action of cocaine is pretty short, about 20 minutes, and there's no way he could get through a debate coked up without disappearing backstage for a mid program toot. He may have gotten away with one hunched over the podium in the first debate, but forget it with the second's format.

Polydrug addiction is hard as hell to break, even when you're able to summon the humility you need in order to do it. You can't do it without help, no matter how much you love Jesus.

I'm sure all he can think about is the party he'll have on November 3, no matter who wins this thing.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:06 PM
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2. Someone call Larry Flynt...
He could put up a cash reward for the dealer to come forward, maybe with some pics.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:13 PM
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9. IF, and that's a big IF, * is using coke, the dealer is certainly the CIA
and very unlikely to be easily bribed. I'm quite sure that the path would be circuitous and the CIA "dealer" would have a convenient story told to them about bribing some tinpot dictator in a banana republic. That would even have the advantage of being true.

I think it very likely that * is on something, but suspect some kind of meds to try and control his bizarre behavior.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:07 PM
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3. Remember that Zappa song "Cocaine Decisions".
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:07 PM
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4. being an old snow fiend myself, I thought the same thing at the
debate

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:08 PM
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He's taking something, of that I'm sure. His facial tics and the jaw thing
along with the jumping up and acting like an ass indicates he's doing something that's causing him to act in a manic manner (above and beyoond his normal personality). I'm not going to say cocaine, but I do think, or rather believe, he's taking something.

Could this have anything to do with his refusal to take a physical and let the public in on the state of his 'health'?
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:08 PM
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5. No way...
Like was said, there is no way they would let him near it.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:11 PM
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8. I tend to agree
IMHO, the facial tics, etc., can all be the sign of someone who never tolerates anyone saying no to him. All of a sudden, folks aren't doing exactly what he wants when he wants it, and he's pissed. He's probably doubly pissed that his handlers won't let him express his righteous indignation.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:40 PM
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23. oh come on, they were DESPERATE after the first debate
I saw it coming and whatever the substance there should be no doubt this idiot drinks and drugs just like any other emperor/dictator would at his own pleasure. poppy cant stop a practiced addict.
can anyone?
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mrbassman03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:59 PM
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26. People also do that when they are frustrated or angry...
I'm pretty sure he was both of these...
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:09 PM
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6. I don't think so.
Bruxism? That can occur to numerous people under numerous conditions. I get it on stage performing or when I'm pulling up to a hot call at work.

He exhibits no other symptoms, from what I've seen.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:10 PM
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7. I think you're right. I posted this earlier regarding the jaw movement.
It used to be thought that the cause of bruxism was an off-kilter bite. That concept is being revisited. It is now believed that clenching and grinding are in large part lifestyle reflexes—reactions to stress and anxiety, "and are classified as a sleep disturbance," says Noshir Mehta, DMD, MS, director of the Craniofacial Pain Center and chair of general dentistry at Tufts University School of Dental Medicine in Boston. Teeth-grinding (sideways movements of the jaws with the teeth just touching) typically occurs during sleep— though it is also a not-uncommon 24/7 side effect among those taking medications for depression, developmental disorders, and schizophrenia, and those taking recreational drugs like ecstasy and cocaine.

http://www.ohwhatbeautifulteeth.com/Article1.cfm?ID=49

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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:20 PM
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13. Exactly -- antidepressants and antipsychotics can cause this, too.
Long-term treatment with Thorazine, for instance, an anti-schizophrenic, can cause drug-induced Parkinsonism -- loss of coordination, trembling, tics and involuntary jaw movements. I posted in a thread yesterday about an elderly relative of mine who was in a rest home back in the seventies, when they used to throw Thorazine and other antipsychotics at the old folks who were starting to deteriorate mentally, because it kept them docile. She compulsively chewed things when we visited her. We didn't know she was on these drugs at the time -- but when I read articles about rest homes being busted for doing it, ten years later, I recognized the symptoms.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:23 PM
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15. exactly. too many OTHER explanations, such as anti-depressants
shrub simply doesn't have the life foundation of strength that the presidency demands.

he doesn't know how to cope with the pressures and stresses of the job. despite the incredible insulation, he's probably still depressed. he's never encountered criticism from people he couldn't simply have destroyed.

i think he's on a mood-altering substance, possibly anti-depressant, or more likely, mood stabilizer, such as depakote.

of course, poppy was partial to halidol, maybe he gets that too.

in any event, he's medicated with SOMEthing, probably legitimate prescription meds, but it's yet another secret they'll never let us in on.
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:13 PM
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10. Nah..He's just high on good old Republican goodness.
I've never seen a president with so many vile, despicable personal habits. It's hard to tell what is wrong with the little turd. I think he was a blow nose...I doubt it now.
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seeker4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:19 PM
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12. I noticed it also. Naturally, no one cares.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:25 PM
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18. I'm no authority, but the cockiness and super-confidence is similar
to co-workers in the 80's. Excessively positive and glib - they got a lot of raises and promotions. They believed they were HOT!

But I guess you don't have to be on drugs to be that cocky - you just have to be a spoiled brat and someone who has to make up for some deficiences, including the defeciency of proper parenting. That cockiness is one of the traits that led to his being selected for the Republican presidency. They were right - it works with a certain per cent of the public. Not me.

We'll know something about his chemistry if he continues to delay his physical.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:26 PM
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19. Remember, Bush skipped his physical t his year.
That is a very, very strange thing for a President to do.
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Stew225 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:33 PM
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22. Maybe Kerry should make a big deal about sharing
the results of a physical with the electorate. Make him piss or get off the pot, so to speak.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:29 PM
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20. I think
Edited on Sun Oct-10-04 04:31 PM by realpolitik
That he had a vaccine reaction that caused psychosis, and that he is now being medicated for sequelae from that original vaccine reaction, such as narcolepsy and behavioral problems.

I mean, would a rational, fully functioning politician actually make that 'gyn's can't practice their love.' remark?

Bush* is a broken puppet, and if it hadn't been a rove, cheney, rummy administration all along, we would have known he was broken around the pretzeldent incident.

Similarly with the bike accident. Anybody got pics of it?
Have we seen him riding his bike lately?
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Astrochimp Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:32 PM
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21. the coke that................
the "crack whores" and"guys walking" do is much different than what shrub would do, IF he was doing it. Crack vs high quality cocaine= BIG difference.


IMHO- he does not look like a guy on coke. He is just an idiot/jerk.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:14 PM
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31. Perhaps you haven't had
a wide enough experience with cokeheads. Dilated pupils, aggressive blabbering on and on and on, body language, these are just the top 3... In my profession, similar symptoms are often observed in people who still have traces of white powder on their noses. After decades of observation, my call is the *sucker is DEFINITELY WIRED. Coke? Designer drug? Don't give a shit. The *asshole is WIRED and poses a clear and present danger to himself and others.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:55 PM
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24. could be amphetamine or ritalin as well
Actually there are lots of drugs that cause these involuntary movements but none are good news.
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Paxdora Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:01 PM
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27. Absolutely...
and if it ain't coke, its METH (speed)! I've seen too much of that activity in my life, but I am wiser (and still alive) today. Oddly enough, Bush may actually experience a "paradoxical" reaction, whereby the stuff really calms him down, so that he doesn't suffer a nervous breakdown onstage from anxiety and start blubbering like a terrified child!
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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:13 PM
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30. Who sells/gets it for him? His daughters?? LOL! nt
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:18 PM
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32. I'm quite sure he gets alot of Top Secret "packages"
so getting it to him would be no problem if he's smart about it
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:44 PM
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35. OMG! Your pictures made me crack up!
That is too funny! :)
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:25 PM
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33. Maybe he delayed his physical until after the election to avoid drug tests
:shrug:
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 05:32 PM
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34. He also did a couple of those long, noisy, desperate nasal SNIFFFFFFFS
that I associate with coke use. This was in the first debate -- I didn't see the second.

At the time I thought "can it be???" but decided it was impossible. Now you are making me wonder again. I figured it was just his usual rudeness, bad manners and total class-lessness.
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