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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:30 PM
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Has anyone heard anything about the 2nd 9/11 Videotape that just surfaced?
I heard something about the 2nd this weekend on NY1 (NYC's local news) re: a Czech construction worker here in NY having a tape of both planes hitting both buildings and their collapses. Apparently, he had not brought it to the attention of the authorities due to "language difficulties".

It is now supposedly in the hands of the NY Times. That was all I heard on the news and I was wondering if anyone has any more information on it?
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AWD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:33 PM
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1. Yes
He was making a video postcard to send home, and captured a distant shot of the first plane (said it looked like the first building had sprung a leak out the back).

Then, as they drove closer, the tape caught images of shocked NYCers, and it pans up to view the second plane from a near-perfect angle, right at street level.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:33 PM
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2. This may be what you're looking for
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/07/nyregion/07TAPE.html

I've not seen it myself. I tend to avoid seeing those tapes if I can help it...
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:37 PM
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3. "language difficulties"... .conveniently solved
just in time for the anniversary "celebrations"


I don't WANT to know what else they've sat on all this time...
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:41 PM
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4. nothing there
just showing the planes hit from a different angle. The firefighters tape, this new tape and George W Bush are the only people who saw the 1st plane crash on tape.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:44 PM
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5. MSNBC article with interesting quote.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/963016.asp

SNIP...." Hlava told the Times he did not see the first plane on his viewfinder, although the tape shows a whitish object hitting the tower, followed by debris spurting from the tower’s side.
While passing through the tunnel, Hlava and his companions heard a radio report that a small private plane had hit the World Trade Center, which was straight ahead outside the tunnel. When they emerged, the north tower loomed over them, its upper floors engulfed in flames......"

I don't remember hearing about the small private plane in the news. I just remember a jet being referred to.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:11 PM
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10. No, I remember things like that...
...heck, I turned to DU to help see if anyone could confirm what kind of plane had hit.

Those first 15 minutes or so were very confused; you may remember reference to a "jet" but most reports were simply "a plane", and and in those first few minutes before the second plane hit (i.e., when he was hearing the report), it looked like it might just be a terrible accident, and in that case a private plane (or even a learjet) seemed a whole lot more likely than an airliner.

Then the second plane hit, it was confirmed that both planes were hijacked airliners, and the rest is awful history.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:18 PM
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11. in the first minutes
there was all kinds of speculation on the radio, including the assumption that it was a small private plane.

no one could conceive of a passenger jet hitting the towers... and then there were two.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:44 PM
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6. Check out this story and see what you think though
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:53 PM
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7. Uhm...wow
As I read this I was being very skeptical, and so I watched the quicktime video for the helluva it.
As grainy as it is, there is definately something "exploding" into the building milliseconds before the plane crashes into it.

I dunno anymore...I mean seriously..what the hell happened and what's really going on?
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:56 PM
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8. Beats me Tripper
But welcome to DU :hi: - there is so much to 9/11 that doesn't meet the eye - and much more that does. Regardless - it all stinks to high heaven.
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cspiguy Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:10 PM
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9. looks like the spot where it broke the first window.
nothin to see here, move along...
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