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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:45 PM
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Was Clinton's 1996 deregulation of media behind the mess we're in?
A knowledgeable friend of mine told me that the blame for the neo-fascistic collusion between indistry/media/govt. deserves to be laid squarely at Clinton's feet. Furthermore, that the Dem Vs. Republican "division" is really a distraction from the REAl dark forces -namely the coprorate powers- who are at war with the underclass. A kind of dog and pony to keep us looking the wromg way.

I would appreciate hearing some discuss on this.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:49 PM
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1. ahh the worst democratic president in our history
that and his pushing of nafta has got to make you wonder, as he circles the globe with ghwb father of the worst president in our history.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:11 PM
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7. He's helping tsunami victims
:eyes:
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:49 PM
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2. Was it Clinton?
I thought that key changes like killing the fairness doctrine occured under Reagan.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:12 PM
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8. BINGO!!!!
If we still had the Fairness Doctrine, Rush Limbaugh never would have been given his first talk radio job, because that station would have to provide three hours a day of equal time. If that had happened, Limbaugh never would have been syndicated, and none of the Limbaugh wannabees would have gotten their starts, either.

Yet another thing we can blame on Reagan.
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:20 PM
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11. We let that slide
We controlled Congress and never had to let it happen. We were asleep at the switch because we figured that AM radio was a totally dead issue and that no one listened to it.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:33 PM
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16. we controlled congress
but corporations buy senators of any stripe
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:51 PM
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3. Blame Clinton?
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 04:55 PM by uppityperson
The corporate powers are attempting world domination. I'm assuming you're talking why is the media not reporting realistically? If so, here's one take. All media has a slant, the best journalists realize this and try to compensate for their slant. There are also layers and layers of government control on the media, covert and overt, many layers and years deep. Having an administration that wants total control, well, they will figure out ways to get it, at least for a while. I don't think laying it at Clinton's feet is the problem except for clinton-hating-repubs.

Edited to add, I think Clinton did good things and bad things.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 04:52 PM
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4. After doing some independent research...
why not come back and tell us what *you think.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:19 PM
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10. Thanks. I plan to and I think this would be a good way to start.
But you are 100% right and thanks for the wise advice!
:hi:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:05 PM
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5. Sen Larry Pressler wrote the legislation. He's an India lobbyist now
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 05:11 PM by EVDebs
Republican SD

http://www.larrypressler.com/global.html

Well, looky there. And India with Bangalore just outsources jobs like there was no end to it. All those people on welfare reform told to get jobs, a lot of them at call centers, just got skeerooooed by this one, two punch.

Nowadays there are no entry level jobs of nativeborn Americans, those have all been outsourced or H1B, L1 visaholders are taking them home with them, of course after the American 'trainers' have been retained just long enough to be laid off after performing that service...
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:09 PM
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6. It didn't help...
at all.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:16 PM
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9. I thought media was getting bought up by corporations prior to 1996.
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 05:19 PM by Ilsa
I thought it started in the late 1980's, didn't it? NBC was owned by RCA, and RCA was bought up by GE in 1986.
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Blue Wally Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:22 PM
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12. NBC was always owned by RCA
RCA started the network way back in the radio days to put content on the radio so that people would buy their radios. GE bought RCA back in the 70s to get their defense business.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:23 PM
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13. Yep, along with NAFTA and a whole host of other corporatist issues
Slick Willy.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:41 PM
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14. Deregulation always always creates a few big corporations & many tiny ones
Edited on Sun Feb-20-05 05:42 PM by applegrove
The mid sized corporations (in this case newspapers, television networks, radio stations) all disappear. The mid-sized corporations cannot compete with the efficiency of huge corporations so they all go under. The tiny outlets or business are in a different playing field.

Happens in retail, airlines, bookstores, financial industry, telecommunications, high tech, etc. etc.

Whatever do you thing George W. Bush means when he says "under our administration small businesses have created x jobs?" That is what the under-employed and unemployed former employees of medium sized corporations do.

You either work for Wal-Mart ... or the corner store. (Even grocery chains are going under).

Same thing in communications.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 05:42 PM
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15. oh no here we go with the blame clinton thing....
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:38 PM
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17. oh sort of like a cycle
when they go too far people might wake up and somehow demand change if democracy survives here--
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:10 PM
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18. In fairness to Clinton (which is becoming INCREASINGLY harder),
It's not like the Democrats ever really backed him up on anything. Still, the death of the Fairness Doctrine shoulda been a large heads-up.

BTW, Bonobo, your friend is dead-on about the distraction. I can't believe how long I refused to accept that!

:freak:
dbt
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