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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:01 AM
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what if dubya had one of his face-bruising siezures in public?
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 06:07 AM by mopaul
would it have a negative effect on his followers? would it be like FDR's polio, debilitating and hidden from the public? i suspect that's how he gets all those bruises on his face, having siezures and falling on his face.

i suspect the president has a serious medical condition that makes him unfit for command, not to mention that he can't speak third grade english. too many lines of cocaine, too many fifths of jack daniels, too many phychotropic meds to keep him centered.

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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:04 AM
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1. The Fundies would think he was speaking in tongues...
Look! He's talking to Jesus! The Rapture's Here!
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:04 AM
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2. It would be covered up by the media...
just like when he lost his temper with a reporter in Cancun a few years back. Never got on tv.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:47 AM
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14. American media, maybe...
...but what about the international press...?

(And you're right, I didn't know anything about it)
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:04 AM
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3. The fundies would think it's the hand of God.
Besides, what's the alternative? Cheney?
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:05 AM
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4. Must-see TV!
But the BIG SHOW is going to be when he is unable to maintain his Human shape some day and we all get to see the Reptile that he really is!
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CarefullyLiberal Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:13 AM
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5. Links please
While I have read, in the past, that * used cocaine and was a big drinker, I have not read or even heard that he had a problem with seizures. Neither have I heard that he is currently on "phycotropic drugs", whatever they are.

Could you provide some proof or documentation that * has seizures and is on ANY medications?

Thanks

-Fergus
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:14 AM
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6. nope
simply speculation on my part
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CarefullyLiberal Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:21 AM
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7. Thats what I thought...
and just as I suspected.

-Fergus
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:22 AM
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8. you got me good there
i'll just kill myself to avoid embarassment
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:31 AM
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11. Sheesh Mopaul
Don't you know it's a thoughtcrime to speculate on the pretzledunce's drug use? Expect a visit from the ministry of evil thoughts.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:25 AM
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9. Something must be wrong with this man.
No one normal obtains this many bruises on his face on a continuous basis and head without something being wrong. What could it be?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:27 AM
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10. Fergus
Check this out: http://www.healthcentral.com/mhc/top/000771.cfm

If that aint Bush, what is?

You can't drink as heavily as he did for as long as he did without some physical and neurological damage. It's just not possible to escape.
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CarefullyLiberal Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:20 AM
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19. Warpy, thanks for the link.
I can't comment on your Wernicke-Korsakoff syndrome link because I'm not a doctor or have any medical training whatsoever.

I don't doubt that * has something going on, something besides mountain bike crashes, but you have to admit he's a pretty healthy guy otherwise. After all, he runs everyday and averages a 6:30 mile when he runs a 10K.

My problem with the original poster was the he/she was a making a significant claim and I didn't see any supporting evidence.

After questioning him/her on it the poster admitted that he/she made all it up, a total fabrication.

Topics like that do nothing but spread hate and discontent.

-Fergus
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:21 AM
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20. him
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 08:22 AM by mopaul
he
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 07:21 AM
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17. Quite a few have speculated about Bush's health.
The fact that he postponed his annual checkup until after the election prompted many questions (but not from the Press!) Also, the fact that no DETAILED results were released when he was checked out seemed a bit odd.

Here's an interesting site:

www.doctorzebra.com/prez/g43.htm

I'll bet the facial lesions represent an ongoing cancerous or pre-cancerous condition. This should be highly treatable, but treatment is not pretty. And he REALLY needs to stop providing those pseudo-macho photo ops outside; sunblock & hats can only do so much.

And observations over the years--since he was my governor--have convinced me that his mental capacity is diminishing. He was never particularly intelligent, but finds it harder to keep it together in public appearances. Many possibile etiologies.


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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:44 AM
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13. Actually, there's a lot of documentation of drug and pretzel abuse
leading to unconsciousness.

Seriously, there is also evidence that Bush suffers from cancer. Those recurrent lesions on his left cheek are in the area where he had skin cancer removed in 2001. Raises the question - is he being treated with cancer drugs that might affect his judgment or cause him to lose consciousness? Read below.

http://www.doctorzebra.com/prez/g43.htm#zree3

On January 13, 2002, Bush lost consciousness while sitting on a couch in the White House, watching a football game. His head hit the floor, resulting in an abrasion on his left cheekbone and a small bruise on his lower lip. The incident was blamed on a combination of (a) Bush not feeling well in previous days, and (b) an improperly eaten pretzel. Their combined effect was to slow the President's heart. (The description suggests a vaso-vagal attack.) The period of unconsciousness was brief <20>.
Interestingly, his father George H. W. Bush also suffered a syncopal episode while President.

<SNIP>

During his 2000 presidential campaign there were persistent questions about a history of cocaine use. Eventually Bush denied using cocaine since 1992, then quickly extended the cocaine-free period back to 1974 (age 28). NBC reporter David Bloom then noted "that current White House appointees must disclose any drug use since their 18th birthday" <12>. Bush, however, refused to make a disclosure, instead admitting he'd made mistakes in the past, and if voters didn't like that "they can go find somebody else to vote for. That's the wonderful thing about democracy" <12>.
Comment: Dr. Zebra concludes Bush used cocaine in his 20s. (Should someone protest that there is no smoking gun, Dr. Zebra reminds them that one does not need "a smoking gun" to diagnose a heart attack in a 60 year old smoker with one hour of unrelenting chest pain, nausea, and EKG changes. That is not "an alleged heart attack," it is a heart attack. Same thing here.) Cocaine use has clear medical implications. For example, it is associated with elevated risk of acquiring chronic diseases, such as viral hepatitis and sexually transmitted disease. Acutely, it can trigger cardiac or cerebro-vascular catastrophe

<SNIP>

Actinic keratoses are pre-cancerous sun-induced skin lesions. Three such lesions were removed from Bush's face on August 4, 2001 using liquid nitrogen <4>.

<SNIP>

On December 14, 2001, Bush had four noncancerous skin lesions removed from his face. The Press learned of this only when Bush appeared before cameras with dark red spots on his face <3>. Commment: These are most likely actinic keratoses, as were the lesions removed from his face in August 2001, or perhaps basal cell carcinomas.
Bush's father, George H. W. Bush, had a similar procedure 8 months later.








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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 07:08 AM
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15. It's because of all the scratches on his face.
Some of those scratches look like he was hit. It's hard to believe he gets these just from falling off the sofa. So the speculation is he has seizures. Some speculated he was being smacked around. It's just strange how many scratches he has on his face.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 07:09 AM
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16. a dead drop right to the floor on his face
is what it looks like. not a punch in the face, these to me look like siezures associated with falling.
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xpat Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:33 AM
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23. Some speculated he was being smacked around.
Hmmm. Did you notice the S&M attire Condi was wearing on her recent trip to Europe. Hmmm.
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BRLIB Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 06:36 AM
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12. He is never in "public"!
He is always in front of his sheeple. And media would black it out anyway.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 07:37 AM
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18. Holy Roller!
Further proof Gawd wanted him in charge.


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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:25 AM
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21. Plus I truly think he has a medical problem
either caused by or exacerbated by the substance abuse problems.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 08:30 AM
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22. Maybe thats what the "No oxygen in the room" was about
Just speckulatin mysef.
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