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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:12 PM
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Judge people by their actions and results of their actions, not words.
That's how I assess people running for office, or otherwise asking for my trust.

I look at bush and see criminal, immoral actions. His words could be as pretty and sweet as an early summer's day and his actions would still be craven and cowardly.

Let's take the very best (worst) example: the war in Iraq. There was no crisis going on. He claimed we were in danger from Iraq and we were not. Despite that, and despite the fact that we know now we were not under threat from Iraq at all, he ordered us to war on them, to attack and invade them, killing thousands of Iraqis in the process.

When no WMDs were found, he did not order the military action to be stopped. Iraqis were still killed. The Iraqi child malnutrition rate is five times higher now than it was under Saddam Hussein. How are we better, again? Iraq is a mess and a bloodbath, with Iraqis and US troops still dying in military actions there all the time. More than two years of this and no end in sight.

His actions are those of a cowardly bully hiding behind bullets and bombs.

The weapons he ordered used on Iraq have killed children.

And yet, he still stands there on teevee, beady little eyes blinking furiously, sweating and trying to tell us it was for the Iraqi's own good.

I'd like him to tell some Iraqis that. In person. With a translator. See what happens. They'd finish him off and say it was "for his own good."

Financial responsibility? I've seen no evidence of it in him, based on his actions.

Compassion for those who are struggling, down on their luck? Not from any actions of his I've seen. And I've been looking.

Care about public education? His NCLB act, if you really know the ins and outs of it and exactly what it does to public school districts, indicates that not only does he not care about public education, he has some strange kind of hate-on for it.

Actions, not words. His words aren't so pretty anyway. But his actions are evil. And I don't use that word lightly.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:13 PM
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1. Hear hear
They can talk all they want but their actions are the deeds. Bush claims to be a conservative but nothing he has done has been that way. He's a neocon plain and simple. Interesting you bring up this thread because today in church this is what the preacher talked about. About your deeds and not just talking about them.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:15 PM
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3. I'm always very suspicious of people who go to a lot of trouble
to tell me how great they are, how honest they are, how hard-working they are (ahem), how blahblahblah they are.

If you really ARE those things, you don't NEED to talk about it, I'm going to be able to tell from your actions.

I once had a new boss who proceeded to tell all of us how honest and wonderful she was for a full hour. I was scared shitless of her after that and kept my distance.

Turns out she was anything but honest and wonderful. She was hands-down one of the worst people I have ever worked for.

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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:28 PM
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7. "The more he spoke of his honesty...
The faster we counted our spoons." - Oscar Wilde, I believe.

I don't trust people who brag about how honest/brave/humble they are. The are Up To Something. Hold onto your wallet.

(I also don't trust preachers who warn about false Prophets. Or radio hosts who warn against demagogues.)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:44 PM
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9. Exactly
Edited on Sun May-01-05 10:45 PM by FreedomAngel82
Exactly. Christ always told/taught to be humble. To me when people talk about themselves they're just braging.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:14 PM
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2. Sometimes a person's words ARE their actions.
Like Mr. "Go fuck yourself" Cheney. His words told everybody what kind of person he is. But I agree with what you're saying. The freeps will tell you to stop being so logical, though. It ain't "right."

LOL, your pic! :7
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:16 PM
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5. I stole the pic from SoCalDem, I think.
But yeah, I mean I DO listen to words, but in the end, to me, it's the actions, the results that matter. The words, as in the case of Cheney's go fuck yourself, are often just a reflection of the attitude. (!!!!)
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:15 PM
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4. Did anyone ever tell you that you're good with words?
:yourock:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:16 PM
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6. Hey I think you are too!
:yourock:

And I've been inspired by many DUers. But thank you.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:42 PM
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8. Good post BB
Next time I do a "fuck Mr.bush and his evil minions" post, I'll link to this. Unfortunately people like to be misled, told everything is fine. They'd rather believe this than the hard truth, but I feel the tide is turning. Too bad it didn't happen before the election as the next 4 yrs must be spent blocking him, but I think this will happen, is happening. And fuck mrbushandhisevilminions. And thanks for your post.
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Conservativesux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:47 PM
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10. So very true. Methinks * doth protests too much.
IOW, he is a damn liar.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:48 PM
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11. And watch out when they say 'we gotta work together'.
bipartisan, blah, blah, time to put politics aside, blah blah, Put our differences aside and work for the people, blah blah

100% of the time it means: It's time to shut up and agree with me.

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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-01-05 10:53 PM
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12. It means "shut up and agree with me"
or the more ominous "pull down your pants and turn around."

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