Conservative Christians Not Laughing at First Lady's Comedy Act

[Freedom_from_Chains]

Hmmm, not submitting to her husband, isn't that a stonable offense?

WASHINGTON, DC—The First Lady may have stolen the show with her surprise comedy routine at the 91st White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, but not everyone appreciated her jokes and one-liners poking fun at President Bush. At least one organization of conservative Christians quickly lashed out at Mrs. Bush's performance, warning that her remarks at the President's expense were a public refutation of the Biblical command that wives should respect their husbands.

According to an official statement released over the weekend by the Coalition for Traditional Values, an organization that seeks a more flexible relationship between church and state, Mrs. Bush's jokes at her husband's expense amounted to a public emasculation of the President. Pastor Roy DeLong, the statement's author and chair of the group, warns that the First Lady's performance comes at a time when the Mr. Bush's "manliness is already under attack."

"As a believer, President Bush is no doubt familiar with the passage from Ephesians that says 'Wives, submit yourselves unto your husbands, as unto the Lord,'" says Mr. DeLong. "That means that just as Christ is the head of the church, the husband is the head of the wife.



(con't) http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/2005/05/some_conservati.html

[Wickerman]

1. when the Mr. Bush's "manliness is already under attack."

Event he Right is beginning to see what a poseur he is. Sweet.

[FreedomAngel82]

49. I think it's funny

Sad thing is through Christ he preached we're all equal through him to the Lord. No submitting to your husband's nonsense.

[Wickerman]

53. GWB's version of Xianity

"Some of us are more equal than others"

:puke:

[intheflow]

77. You're right.

That wives submitting to husband BS is all Paul's warped interpretation. Honestly, these people wshould call themselves Paulians, not Christians. When was the last time you heard one of them quoting the Sermon on the Mount?

[Name removed]

99. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Catamount]

78. Exactly! LOL

[roguevalley]

84. The day any woman has to humble themselves to any man because he is the

man is day cyanide sales go through the roof. I will buy a gallon myself.

[tuvor]

2. Yep, pick and choose the verses that support your agenda.

Ignore those that don't.

Bastards.

[Sal316]

3. Yeah... keep 'em quiet, barefoot, and pregnant!

:sarcasm:

Ugh..these Fristians really piss me off.

[smoogatz]

48. Hey, if Bush can't control his lump--

how's he gonna run the country? Isn't that what the wingnuts said about Clinton?

[bertha katzenengel]

4. They just keep on making asses of themselves, don't they?

And they don't care. They're like the old Hebrew National hot dog commercial. They answer to a higher calling.

Well, continuing to answer -- so publicly -- ONLY to their higher calling is quickly going to get them right back where they belong: out of politics.

[KC21304]

5. I think this is a joke from Swiftreport and Drudge fell for it.

I may be wrong.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

32. Naw, Drudge finally caught on.

[Atman]

6. Huh?

"...the Coalition for Traditional Values, an organization that seeks a more flexible relationship between church and state,

So now "flexible" has become synonymous with "Cozy."

[Zenlitened]

7. This is SO recommended for the Greatest Page!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Kolesar]

8. This reads like satire

Are you sure this is not The Onion?

[Jo March]

13. for those of us who were raised with this - no, it's not satire

My mother was told the same thing by our pastor.

It's not a joke. These folks are quite serious.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

16. Got me, check this one out and see what you think.

Bush Blasts Homosexual Energy Agenda

[ooglymoogly]

79. this would all be so hilarious

if thousands of people were not dying at the hands of these idiots

[Freedom_from_Chains]

82. Hey, that's exactly why we need a little humor from time to time.

[skypilot]

41. reads like satire.

I was thinking the same thing. "Gay cars"? "Homosexual energy agenda"? I didn't read the whole thing but my sense of it was that it wasn't serious. On the other hand it seems much too long for a joke. Brevity is the soul of wit, as they say. Articles like this, with links, and links within links, can be deceiving.

[Red State Rebel]

104. This is satire.....this came up yesterday and the thread was locked

[seabeyond]

9. lol lol lol hadnt thought of the submittin one

but for other reasons i felt she oughta get in trouble by her people, lol lol

oh that is so funny. i am all in a giggle

let em yell
cheer em on

[hatrack]

10. Cool!

I'm surprised they didn't screech and moan when Jenna & the Other One were out getting hammered and falling down drunk in public.

That sounds to me like rebellious children - you know, the ones GAWD commands us to stone to death at the gates of the city, so that evil shall be put away from among you?

Time to pop a top and watch the Rabid Right eat their own!

[Roland99]

11. BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

These nutcases should all be strapped to the fuel tank of the Shuttle and be sent off to the "heavens" on the next launch.


WTFU, morans! It's the 21st Century, not Biblical days.

[Jo March]

12. This is good news, folks

When you get in bed with the fristians, you have to play by their rules or they get very nasty.

Look for someone like Falwell or Buchanon to run in 2008 and pull about 5 - 10% fristian votes from the repub candidate.

Oh, and make sure to stock up on :popcorn:

[FSogol]

56. I'm Guessing that Frist ..

is setting himself up to be the 2008 Jesus Candidate.

[Jo March]

61. Yep and I hope that he ends up running against the 08 repub nom

If he does run as a 3rd party candidate, he will pull the fundie vote, no doubt about it. That will be mighty nice for the left and terrible for the right.

What will the party name be? The Moral Majority party, maybe? Or, as you say, the Jesus Party?

[ginnyinWI]

75. Pat Robertson doesn't like Frist

He said so on This Week yesterday. Was kind of vague as to why.

[Fire Walk With Me]

83. Pat might think that he should be in Frist's place

Remember, it's about Jesus, not about agendas and attention etc.

[AzDar]

14. Not surprising...When are folks going to figure out that the Bush family

isn't Christian, isn't Republican, even. They are horrible, life-siphoning frauds...pretending to be whatever suits them politically at any particular time. They are a cancer.

[FreedomAngel82]

55. I can't wait for that

Hopefully it'll happen. When it does they'll be really angry with Bush. A lot of his supporters are already turning on him. Now it's all their little Christian base to realize he's a fraud.

[WalrusSlayer]

15. Either way, this is a good thing

If it isn't a joke, then this is just another case where the fundie fringe shows their true, whack-job colors for all to see. Which is good, because it will weaken their support.

If it is a joke, the fact that it is based on such a (sadly) plausible scenario just accomplishes the above in a different way.

Keep making the headline you whack-jobs, it will just come around and bite you in the end...

[NYCGirl]

17. Hey guys, IT'S SATIRE!

http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/

Read it — SATIRE!

[RamboLiberal]

70. That will teach me to trust anything Sludge links to

that I don't recognize as MSM - Sludge linked to it too.

[KittyWampus]

71. Things Are So Screwy We Can't Even Tell Anymore

[Jade Fox]

18. The GOP feed the Religious Right monster, and now it owns them....

at least it thinks it does.

Twenty-five years of the GOP making unkept promises to the Religious
Right will be the downfall of the Neocons. I believe the relevant term
here is: Unholy Alliance.

[foreigncorrespondent]

19. Oh boy!

I guess some people were born to never understand satire.

These people really need to grow a sense of humor. I laughed at what the stepford wife said about her idiot husband. It is about damn time she told the truth about him. :evilgrin:

[stevedeshazer]

20. Um, guys, it's satire

There's a reason it reads like The Onion.

It is funny as hell, though, just like good satire it has a grain of truth.

[Jo March]

62. You never grew up in a Southern baptist church did you?

Yes -it was written as a joke but there are a great many folks who ACTUALLY THINK LIKE THIS.

Little story:

My dad was an abusive alcholic. My mother went to our preacher for help. He quoted many of these verses to her - submit to your husband, he said, and be a better, submissive wife and your husband won't drink anymore.

If you guys think that this is entirely a joke, then you need to research on the internets a bit more.

Yes, this article is silly but it is based in fact. Scary fact, but still fact.

[AmBlue]

21. Just the look of what's to come, folks....

Unless we stop these fucking lunatics. But... I gotta say....

MR. & MRS. JUNIOR BROUGHT THIS ON THEMSELVES!!!

[GiovanniC]

22. Swift Reports -- as in Jonothan Swift, as in "A Modest Proposal", as in

the godfather of satire.

[TWiley]

23. Good. Let the Christians "stone" Laura for insubordination.

Then the world would know that the American Christian Taliban is no different than the Afgan Muslim Taliban.

[yella_dawg]

24. This is satire.

By all the Gods, it has to be. The blog entry links to another blog spot by the same author discussing Shrub's proclaiming the Prius to be a "gay car" while he was bashing "radical homosexual energy agenda". Bush is a moron. But nobody is that stupid.

[monarch]

30. One of the world's greatest pieces of satire!

All the responses make it all the more delicious. We should post this everywhere we can.

[burn the bush]

25. Charlie damned it to hell! My hubbys name is Charlie and I am trying to

treat him as I treat God. Charlie damn it.

oh charlie oh charlie.

Charlie bless you.

for Charlies sake

Charlie f---in Christ

thank Charlie

I don't really believe in Charlie

[LibDemAlways]

26. Self delete

[Taverner]

27. Wow had no idea I had a "gay" car

And that my car was named after the god of erections...man these fundies are a piece of work....

[Celebration]

28. hilarious

This is better than Onion!! And "swift"? Wonder where that name came from!! A great site and nominated for that? Check out the Fox News poll there.

[dbonds]

29. I love reading stuff like this.

I actually though the routine was a good thing, almost an acknowledgement they know we are laughing at them and they find it funny too. But to piss off the fundies, wow that is icing on the cake.

[rodeodance]

58. yes, it is the fundies who are having a cow-The WH is now afraid and

said early this morning that Laura really does not this show=Deparate housewives.

[beam me up scottie]

31. It's a JOKE people!

The only thing more funny is the comments:

"You morons...the Swift Report is a satire news site...fake news to make you laugh...you know, Jonathon *Swift*?

Too funny, all these people rushing to support Laura against a fake news piece...funnier than the original story!

Go back and read the other stories on this website, look at the ads, and realize how dumb you are.

Posted by: Tom DeLay | "

and

"I support the Pastor's reaction. I support the President as well, but the comments by Mrs. Bush--which by the way I'm not a real fan of anyway--was very wrong. Especially the one about the horse! I was shocked and disappointed. How purile. I think they can do and be better than that.

Those that support that kind of comments and see nothing wrong with it should spend a little more time in God's word, for many have become cold.

Posted by: Mark | May 2, 2005 10:21 AM"

and

"I found it shocking that she admitted to taking it up the pooper. She may have a exquisite brown rose back there, but keep your bedroom encounters private please.

Posted by: shocked | May 2, 2005 10:19 AM"


:rofl:

[NYCGirl]

33. Half of the people on this thread took it seriously, too.

And BTW, the second comment you posted by "shocked" is obviously "satirical".

[dbonds]

34. I did take it serious at first, but I did not go to the link , just read

quoted part. But it hits close enough to the truth that it is believable. I know a couple 'Dominionist' people that think exactly like that. Making it more believable, I heard on one of those opinion shows that pass as news that some of the fundies were upset over it (not stating reasons).

Edit for stupid grammar mistake.

[beam me up scottie]

37. Duh.

Why do you think I posted it? People were laughing at the posters the whole time and they STILL didn't get it.
:eyes:

[Jo March]

64. Again, I lived this growing up

This piece may be satire but boy howdy, there are fundie groups all over the country who are more than likely spewing the same crap.

This was funny. The groups that actually believe this crap are scary.

:scared:

[beam me up scottie]

65. Unfortunately, I'm living it now

in a red state. I feel you.
They kind of have to give her a pass on this because she was doing it to help mr. "manliness's" ratings!
I imagine their leaders LOVE having to keep their yaps shut!

[Jo March]

68. It's funny how many of them will throw their beliefs out the window

for * but not for anyone else.

I had a good friend (We are no longer friends.) who is very religious. He is gentle and kind but is willing to give * a pass because * claims to be a Christian. I could never understand it. Right before we went to war with Iraq, I asked him how he could support the killing of innocents. He had no good answer.

[beam me up scottie]

72. I lost a friend

because of this. He was a born-again catholic and we were always able to get past our political and religious differences until this.
I have gay friends that are being denied their rights because of this "christian". I have a brother going over to fight next month also because of this "christian". When my friend repeatedly defended * because he's supposedly a religious man, it was too much to take.
He told me that I shouldn't take it personally, I told him it IS personal.
They don't get it and never will.

[Jo March]

73. That is the main reason why I'm not friends with this person anymore

They try and act like it's not a big deal when it most certainly is a big deal to lie and start a war that kills hundreds of thousands!

I do take it personally, dammit.

They don't get it, I agree, and it's so sad. I miss him as a person but not as a bushbot.

[NickB79]

98. "She may have a exquisite brown rose back there"

Brown rose?!?!

:puke:

[beam me up scottie]

103. I know, LOL!

Damn trolls are everywhere!

[ailsagirl]

35. I dont think Ellen Degeneres has anything to worry about

"Pickles" isn't exactly a comedienne.

It's stupid enough that she conducted a cute little roast of her illustious (:sarcasm:) husband but for the fundies to freak out because the little lady doesn't know her place is disgusting.

It's crazy making

[flvegan]

36. This response to the story sums up the fundies for me:

"(I'm) Pro-life in all circumstances. In fact, I support the death penalty in abortion cases."

WTF?

[SheepyMcSheepster]

38. it always amazes me how people (even at DU) don't get the joke sites

reminds me of the "rent a child" site a couple weeks ago.

[beam me up scottie]

42. No kidding.

The name alone should have given it away, like somebody would actually name their business "Rent My Son" if it was legit...

[bear425]

39. I can't quite understand what she was trying to accomplish

with that standup routine. Did she finally go off the deep end, or was it an intentional line drawn in the sand?

For pickles to admit to watching Desperate Housewives and going to a Chippendales strip club, let alone saying her husband tried to milk a MALE horse...I think she must have been deliberately trying to embarrass *. Maybe she has finally had enough and wants him to know it?!

:popcorn:

[NYCGirl]

43. Since 1914, the WH Correspondents' Dinner was meant to be a lighthearted

affair, with jokes and musical numbers.

http://www.whca.net/history.html

[lectrobyte]

40. Manliness under attack?

WTF does that mean? Did the Coalition for Traditional Values pointy heads explode when they saw all the liberal media pictures of Bush holding hands with an Arab?

[DanCa]

44. Cool LMAO

I am still waitting for the ptc to go after our good Fristian president's wife for her statements about being a desperate house wife.

[spunky]

45. The thing about satire, is that it is supposed to be ironic,

and this isn't ironic. What's that group of Southern Baptist, The Promise Keepers or something that truly believe that wives should submit to their husbands. I mean this really could be true (even though its not). I could see some Promise Keeper-esque group truly having a problem with it.

Still funny though.

[NYCGirl]

46. It's a SATIRE site, Spunky. NT

[spunky]

47. I see that now, and have edited my post.

I didn't look at the site, just read the article, and living in Mississippi I had absolutely no second thoughts about believing these people would actually say shit like that.

[Jo March]

63. It may be a satire piece but I lived this growing up!!!!!!!

Yes -it was written as a joke but there are a great many folks who ACTUALLY THINK LIKE THIS.

Little story:

My dad was an abusive alcholic. My mother went to our preacher for help. He quoted many of these verses to her - submit to your husband, he said, and be a better, submissive wife and your husband won't drink anymore.

If you guys think that this is entirely a joke, then you need to research on the internets a bit more.

Yes, this article is silly but it is based in fact. Scary fact, but still fact.

[wryter2000]

50. LOL

Thanks, I needed that. :rofl:

[cilla4progress]

51. Vent spleen!

Ok, this I just gotta get off my chest. I thought of writing into my local conservative media even BEFORE I saw this story about Laura's hijinks at the annual Correspondent's Dinner - which only confirm my early morning epiphany - but I thought writing to this forum would be more satisfying.

So, I'm waking up to my - you got it, local conservative media (only station I can get on the radio in my bedroom - go figure), you know, the one that plays Rush Limbaugh and James Dobson ad nauseum all day and that crazy UFO guy at night. They run their usual morning snippets (ABC news) including Dr. Dean O'Dell (spelling?) and what is his topic of the day at 7 am, during the "get-the-kids-out-the-door" morning rush hour when one would expect MSM to be "safe": a quite graphic story on female sexual arousal. Now, as a lib, I'm all for frank, open discussion of all issues concerning sexuality, as one might expect, but come on! I swear I am becoming more and more confirmed these Christian moralists are actually a bunch of repressed adolescent types who never grew up and just want to keep "poo poo talk" in the headlines for their own twisted gratification!!!!

[izzybeans]

52. These wingnuts are really blurring the line between satire and

reality for me. I thought this was a brilliant satire, but it turns out they weren't kidding.

How dare she point out the obvious. On the other hand, if you read her "jokes" seriously they are pretty powerful refutations of this man's ability to lead. No wonder the wingnuts are angry. She pointed out his true character. They just hoped to defuse the obvious by turning it into a joke.If the fristian right are angry then we should be rejoicing: See below

"I spent 12 hours in the library a day. But we still met."=my husbands a complete idiot
"I told him that if he is going to end tyranny in the world he better stay up past 9:00 o'clock."=lazy fuck get off the couch and do your job

[burythehatchet]

54. got news for ya

liberal Hindus didn't laugh either :mad:

[JerseygirlCT]

57. Ewww

now I need another shower.

[LondonReign2]

59. These idiots will never understand that ShrubCo isn't Xtian!

Idiots wull never realize that Chimpy and Friends simply play them for fools and are Xtians in name only.

[NYCGirl]

60. BTW, the article is not real. It's from a satire site. NT

[Dervill Crow]

89. It may be intended as satire, but it's very real.

I used to teach a "marriage enrichment" Sunday School class, and submission to a husband is rule #1 for the wife, plus all the other "virtuous woman" activities carried out by the gal in Proverbs (is it 41?). Pickles seems to fall a bit short. Never mind that her co-lump in the bed hardly fits Paul's description of an ideal husband; that's no excuse.

Betty Bowers might be a caricature, but there's an awful lot of women out there just like her.

[maveric]

66. Did "Jackie the Joke Man" Martling write her material?

[Beaverhausen]

67. She and Lynne Cheney are "desperate housewives"

that's what she said. Maybe she wasn't kidding.

[AuntiBush]

95. Don't let Lynne Cheney Fool Ya!

She's in above her ears in sleezy-oily deals. On the other hand, wouldn't you be feeling like a "desperate housewife," if you're hubby's $hip was $inking? :rofl:

Quote, "he's in bed by 9," and "all the tryanny going on..." paraphrashing. Didn't she mention something about "democracy" as well, all while the Chimp is enjoying zzzeeesss! While they're laughing all the way to the bank, and using miniorities to "appear" lib-er-al to all!

Yeah. Right.

[bush_is_wacko]

69. *'s MANLINESS is in question???

Hasn't it ALWAYS been in question? It looks like the good Reverend is reading the Guckert stories!

I don't think it's Laura that * wants to "submit" Mr. DeLong. He likes them MAN DATES remember?

Oh am such a bad girl! :spank:

[mogster]

74. You think the fundies have started to look for excuses?

You think the fundies have started to look for excuses to turn their backs on Bush?
This would be just the thing to 'save their faces' when facing a failing prez.

Just a thought.

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

76. Actually, a public emasculation is just what * needs!

Just call him George "Bobbitt" Bush. Works for me... :evilgrin:

The boy king "manly"-- you have got to be kidding me.

[deadparrot]

80. LMAO.

Oh, god, I don't know what's funnier.

The submitting to the husband thing? The fact that the fundies are out for blood against the Bushies? ** and "manliness" in the same sentence?

It's ripe for the picking, I've gotta say.

[dave29]

81. Holy misogynists, Batman!

perhaps she should wear a burka.

[Shallah Kali]

85. She not only likes Desperate Housewives, she likes Harry Potter

even had a special screening of one of the movies at the White House:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/11/20011111-3.html

Pass that on to your favorite fundy and watch them recoil in horror :evilgrin:

[Generic Other]

86. First Lady's "public emasculation" of hubby?

Snip! Snip!

Would that be a neutering or a spay job?

Bwahahahahahahahaha...

[il_lilac]

87. traditonal values coalition site

they denounce the story here:

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=2248

[IronLionZion]

108. They thought it was hilarious!!! bwahaha!

I think this whole thing is hilarious! :silly:

[katamaran]

88. I'm so torn....

Women being oppressed......defending Laura's bad jokes
Women being oppressed......defending Laura's bad jokes
Women being oppressed......defending Laura's bad jokes

Jeebus, I don't know which side is the WRONG one to take here!

<shudder>

[BiggJawn]

90. STFU, Delong...

You'll get your "Handmaiden" soon enough, you theocratic Taliborn-again asslicker.

[NYCGirl]

91. There is no such person as Pastor Delong...it's a joke site. NT

[bvar22]

93. I no longer care.

Pass it on anyway.

The Republicans claim to win by making their own reality.

I wasn't always like this. TRUTH used to be important....now, if it hurts republicans, I'm for it.

[bvar22]

92. Psst!Pass it on!

"Mrs. Bush's jokes at her husband's expense amounted to a public emasculation of the President. Pastor Roy DeLong, the statement's author and chair of the group, warns that the First Lady's performance comes at a time when the Mr. Bush's "manliness is already under attack."


Guess those cheerleader days are catching up with our emasculated president.

I thought it wasn't possible to emasculate someone who doesn't have balls.

bush* showed us what he was made of on 9-11 when he left a trail of yellow urine across half of America looking for a place to hide from Osama.

[leftofthedial]

94. the bushturdgang and the M$M have been running away

from her actual remarks all day long.

[goodboy]

96. this is all bullshit isn't it? NYC girl posted something about Drudge

getting punked by a fake story about Christian's "ostensible" reaction to Laura's comedy act.

Drudge Gets Finked Out!!!

On Friday, Matt Drudge educated C-SPAN viewers about the tricky nature of news in the Internet era: "What is happening is credibility is being called into play, of people making stuff up deliberately, finking people out, parody sites not really labeled as parody. There's a lot of confusion out there." Today, Drudge got fooled by a blogger parodying conservative Christians' ostensible reaction to Laura Bush's WHCD speech. If you ask us, though, the news here isn't that Drudge mistook a fake story for a real one -- it happens to everyone eventually. Much more notable, in our opinion, is that the famously MSM-biased citizen-journalist actually linked to a blog! It only lasted for a few minutes, but it's a start.
— GREG BEATO
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/media/drudge-gets-finked-out-101904.php

[GoBlue]

97. Her desperate housewife act sucked...

but this makes it hilarious.

[deacon]

100. I don't find someone that is part of fighting stem cell research funny,

period. And I'm sure those in serious health dilemmas don't either.

[Name removed]

101. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[NVMojo]

102. the whole group needs a laxative!!!!

[knitter4democracy]

105. We watched that, and it was funny.

She really got a lot of aggression out that night, let me tell ya. She got some nasty little digs in, and he looked pretty pissed off under that smirk (red face, angry eyes). It was actually fun to watch.

[IronLionZion]

106. Settle down folks, this is a joke LINK>>>>

These guys are laughing at Drudge for linking to it:
http://www.brendanloy.com/archives/017796.html

And check out some of the other articles on swiftreport like
"May 03, 2005
Conservative Critics of First Lady's Comedy Act Decry 'Hoax' Smear

Bushes_thumbA conservative Christian organization that lashed out at the First Lady's weekend comedy routine is lashing out again—this time at critics who claim that the group's Bible-based panning of Mrs. Bush's jokes and one-liners was itself a joke. Observers say that the high-profile dispute over who can speak for conservative Christians is just the latest in an increasingly heated battle between the Coalition for Traditional Values and its rival, the Traditional Values Coalition."
http://swiftreport.blogs.com/news/

[leesa]

107. Fundies are so easily conned. Amazing!

[anarchy1999]

109. delete--------.

[NYCGirl]

110. Mr. DeLong can't kill himself. He doesn't exist. It's a joke site. NT

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3588392&mesg_id=3588392