Trump to spearhead Twin Tower effort

[IndianaGreen]

Trump to spearhead Twin Tower effort (David Shuster)

I would hate to be New York Governor George Pataki. As I write this blog, the press release from Donald Trump is on the way. Every major political leader and news organization in New York is about to learn that Trump is planning to hold a blockbuster news conference Wednesday morning. Trump will announce he is going to spearhead a group of developers to rebuild the Twin Towers stronger, safer, and taller than they were before 9/11.

At his Wednesday morning press conference, Trump will stand next to the 9-foot tall model featured on MSNBC last week that was built by Ken Gardner of the group makeNYNYagain.com. I'm told that Trump has now inspected the detailed model, will stand next to it Wednesday morning... and will announce something along the lines of, "Here is the proposal, it's ready to go, and it's time for the greatest city in the world to put the Twin Towers back up."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5445086/



http://www.triroc.com/wtc/

[NYCGirl]

1. Oy. NT

[IndianaGreen]

3. Check out the website, it is a better design than the current one

The memorial is on each original footprint. The new WTC is a better and stronger design.



http://www.triroc.com/wtc/

[Liberal In Texas]

2. I've always thought they should be rebuilt.

Otherwise THEY win. (Whoever THEY are.)

[leveymg]

4. He'll try to put his name on it.

If, indeed, that is really his name. :eyes:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

5. The Trump Twin Towers (TTT or TTTT?)

The Trump 9/11 Memorial Plaza. The World Trump Center? (WTC)

[leveymg]

6. Oh, shiTTT and more shiTTTT

Only THE DONald would want brand-name association with the most infamous crime in American history.

Suits him.:bounce:

[soleft]

7. As long as he doesn't put Tana in charge of building it

:crazy:



I hate the design of the new building - it looks like a giant bayonet.

I'd love to see the skyline look like it did on 9/10

[FreedomAngel82]

25. Me too

:shrug: I thought on Olbermann's show they were talking about having the second one shorter then the first? This one looks like they're the same height?

[TreasonousBastard]

8. Fuck Trump...

he's always got big plans, and just about every one of them has been shot down.

He's undoubtedly pissed that everyone actually involved in the plan has ignored him. Hell, they ignored Larry Siverstien, who actually owned them in the first place, so who's Trump to try to get in the action now...

[ConfuZed]

9. Screw You...

Just kidding but his idea is way better than the whatchamacallit tower they were going to build, I'm all for getting the old towers rebuilt and if Donald can do it kudos to him.

[iconoclastNYC]

18. You mean the Orweillian Tower?

Freedom (Is Slavery) Tower

[Catchawave]

10. Good for him !

Nobody does high rises better, so I trust his judgment on this one. Love him or hate him, he saved NYC back in the 70's from bankruptcy :) I've long forgiven his family for tearing down historical Steeplechase Park (Coney Island) to "develope".

I'm sorry he didn't run for President, to paraphrase his reason, "Nobody should be President if that's their highest paying job".

Hate The Apprentice, love the Donald !

[Beetwasher]

11. I Have To Admit, The Idea Appeals To Me; The Skyline Will Be Restored

and that thought does indeed give me chills...

And as a New Yorker, I have to say, my opinion matters more than anyone who isn't a New Yorker (and that goes for ANY subject!):evilgrin:

[eleny]

13. Born and raised there and hated them when they were built

But I do like this idea. I like Olbermann's twist on this idea even better. Make one tower exactly so many inches shorter to symbolize the deaths realized when they went down. An inch for each life.

[FreedomAngel82]

26. I agree

That would be perfect. If Trump is doing this I hope he does that idea and their plans. I liked it. And didn't they say to have a certain area in the building for rememberance? I'm glad the towers are going back up no matter who is doing it because this is better, like mentioned before, then the "Freedom Tower" bullshit. That had Bush written all over it and didn't feel right. Felt like more Bush propoganda.

[Carni]

36. I never liked them either

I hate to admit that, but the design of those two buildings always gave me bad vibes.

I was kid when they were built and I thought they were scary looking (little did I know)

Hey--if there are people braver than I that can enter rebuilt towers and not get all creeped out then more power to them and to whoever rebuilds them.

I hate that current *freedom tower* design.

[DireStrike]

21. Ditto, and ditto my mom.

She loves towers pictures and old movies that have the towers in them. The 'freedom tower' would just be a reminder that they're missing.

Absolutely right, NYers should get a say. But we didn't want the stadium either...

[bullwinkle428]

12. Nice timing, T...

...way to get your name in the press again, on the eve of your show's season finale!

[Marnieworld]

14. This makes me so happy

I really miss the old skyline. I think this could be very healing for the city. Trump is right and I am so glad he is doing this.

[entanglement]

15. So does this mean Trump's plan trumps the other one? n/t

[tinrobot]

16. Like the idea, don't like Trump.

If his name didn't go on it, I'd support it.

I like the idea of the skyline being restored.

[theboss]

17. I don't know if this makes sense financially

But I love the sentiment of it.

[iconoclastNYC]

19. It does not need to make sense financially

This isn't just a real estate project. This goes to healing the national psyche and a National Security matter.

Rebuilding anything less what was there shows that we have been intimidated by this act, I hate all this : "then the terrorist win" bullshit, but putting up a 60 story tower to replace 220 stories is a joke!

So rebuild it.

It wouldn't cost more then 1 month of our Iraq misadventure. Two months, tops.

Take the money out of the CIAs budget.

[Stephanie]

20. Forget the Towers, just paint a giant bullseye over Manhattan instead.

It will have the same effect.

[Beetwasher]

22. Well, Anything They Build There Will Be A Bullseye

As a matter of fact, even if they build NOTHING there, NYC will still be a bullseye...

[Stephanie]

28. I just don't like this "bring it on" stuff

It's idiotic. I don't want new Towers, I don't want a Jets stadium, I don't want the Olympics. Just leave us in peace.

[Beetwasher]

29. I Hear You

I totally hear you and I'm torn about it to be honest for just that reason...And while there's a part of me that's fearful that these things will be magnets, another part also knows no matter what we build or do or whatever, we're STILL going to bullseye number one regardless, so we might as well live like we aren't. We are New Yorkers after all, so I say to hell w/ the terrorists and Bushco and either build or not build, but do it on the merits of the project, as we always have, and not let fear guide our decisions.

[theboss]

30. It's New York City; not Iowa City

Nothing you do there is going to "leave you in peace." The Statue of Liberty is not a target? The Empire State Building? Rockefeller Center? Madison Square Garden? Lincoln Center? The Plaza? Trump Plaza? Carnegie Hall? Times Square?

You have always lived in a bullseye. I live in DC. Same thing. That doesn't mean we should tear down the Washington Monument.

[Stephanie]

31. Yeah but we don't need to be stupid either

I don't want new Towers and I don't want the Olympics. If you think it's a good idea, have them where you live.

[theboss]

32. The Olympics are different

I think they would be a money, traffic, and security nightmare for any East Coast city. However, I think a struggling city like Pittsburgh or Cleveland could get a big shot in the arm from them.

But I don't get the fear of being a "target." Like I said, I'm in DC. The plane that hit the Pentagon flew within a few hundred feet of my old apartment. The Mall is a militarized zone at this point. But I think we should open things back up and just be smart and alert. I think it's stupid to live in fear. 9/11 should not have happend in the first place if we actually had leadership at the time.

[Stephanie]

40. "But I don't get the fear of being a "target." "

Move to NYC and you will get it. It's non-stop. You might have enjoyed the RNC, when the whole town was shut down. It's no joke and I am way over it.

Move your bulls-eyes elsewhere, BushCO. NYC has given enough blood.

[theboss]

41. I am a target too

For the third time, I live in Washington DC. If the world ends, I'll know about it first. Trust me....any security hassles you had to deal with during the RNC, we deal with everyday. And it's been going on here since the 90s when they closed part of Pennsylvania Avenue for security reasons. Then they put up jersey barricades around every building. And then 9/11 happened and the shit really hit the fan.

But if you let it get to you, it will drive you nuts. And if you suddenly decide to change your city's style, well....you let....oh god, I can't say it.

But seriously, do you think they should tear down the Empire State Building because it's a "Bullseye?"

[Stephanie]

43. I think it is ridiculous to rebuild the Towers

I live one mile from there and I don't want them. Okay? NO to rebuilding the TOWERS.

[theboss]

44. Why be a New Yorker then?

I'm trying not to be insulting, but I went to college near New York and my roommates dad had to be evacuated from the WTC during the first attack in '93. I just accepted the fact that New York meant insanely big public works, expensive cost of living, and a potential target for terrorists.

I think there are plenty of reasons for being against the West Side Stadium (cost), the Olympics (cost, security, and traffic), and rebuilding the WTC (is there really a need?).

I'm just curious what your specific reasons against these projects are. If it is really "Just let us live in peace...." Well, I think you may be in the wrong city.

[Stephanie]

46. you are not "theboss" of me, okay?

don't patronize me - don't tell me where to live - don't tell me what my opinion ought to be about a building plan that I hate - don't pretend you understand what it's like to live in New York because you "went to college near New York" - the '93 attack was nothing at all like 9/11 and I was here for both - I am not interested in arguing with you - my opinion is that it is stupid to rebuild the Towers and if the plan is serious I will oppose it - I don't need to explain it to you any further

[theboss]

47. I'm not trying to be patronizing

And you are free to your opinion. I'm just curious as to why exactly you are against the buildings and your answer has been "it's stupid."

And for the fourth time, I live in DC. I lived near the Pentagon when it was hit. I spent the day making sure friends of mine were still alive; a girl I dated was a secretary in the building that day.

I'm a target too, but I don't share your sense of ... I guess disengagement is the word.

I simply don't think fear should dictate any actions.

[Stephanie]

48. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3671886&mesg_id=3672521

[theboss]

49. So, my point about fear dictating actions stands

And I simply disagree with that argument.

[DemonFighterLives]

45. I can understand your wishes

From where I sit (MN), you can build whatever you want.
I would strongly caution against having any Silverstein/Bushco & Bro's/ Bin Ladens involved. Until we know what really happened, how can a tower be built to discourage "them".

:tinfoilhat:

[patcox2]

23. I have always thought they should be rebuilt.

Anything less is capitulation.

I hope the survivors don't start whining about "hallowed ground." Fuck that shit, cowardice is no fitting memorial.

[FreedomAngel82]

24. I think it's a great idea!

I love the idea of rebuilding the tower and having the second one a lil shorter and have a floor for each person who died. That's such a great idea. I never felt right about the whole "freedom tower" shit that Bush wanted to do. This way we can show Bush and his neocon buddies that they can't get us into fear all the time. I'm so glad Trump is on board with this. :woohoo: :applause: :patriot:

[Chicago1]

27. America's Work Stories

Who would want Donald Trump to rebuild the Towers? The terroriststst will knock them down AGAIN. Donald Trump drives me nuts. Who would want to work for him.


Waiting for the IMPEACHMENT WHILE THE SCANDALS KEEP UNFOLDING



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[rodeodance]

34. I agree, I think Trumps idea is dangerous-as it says "bring em on" We

have had enough of that rhetoric.

[jayctravis]

33. Are they going to make one shorter as suggested on KO?

I loved the concept of that -- even someone who somehow didn't know about 9/11 would always ask "why is that one shorter?"

[JackRiddler]

35. It's quite irrelevant

This is all kabuki theater.

Nothing half as tall as the originals will ever be built on that site, for the simple reason that it won't get tenants. (Go tell'em it's their patriotic duty to rent out space there.)

And no, "they" do not therefore win.

They only win if they get away with it.

Which, in turn, is up to us and to the prosecutors of this fine land.

Indict the real perpetrators!

JUSTICE FOR 9/11!
www.Justicefor911.org

[UdoKier]

37. This time Trump is right.

This design is far superior and more appropriate in every way. Most New Yorkers and most Americans in every survey want them back AS THEY WERE.

The Freedom Tower design is hideous and does not look right.

I really hope Trump succeeds.

[GetTheRightVote]

38. I believe it is a very good ideal to rebuild what has been taken from NYC

It is a way of telling the world that we are strong even in defeat, we will raise up better then before, we are the phoenix renewed and ready to spread our wings again, out of the fire comes life again.

:kick:

[IndianaGreen]

39. I think it is a more fitting memorial than the one adopted by the city

BTW, Trump is merely endorsing the plan, but he will definitely will push to bring it into fruition:

Twin Towers II Design
by Kenneth Gardner and Herbert Belton

• www.TwinTowersII.com • www.MakeNYNYagain.com •

Reasons to Adopt the Plan

1. The WTC site was designed specifically for the Twin Towers.

a. The skin, core, and flooring could be completed within two years, fully, and truly restoring the skyline.

b. The Twin Towers were a national monument, just like the White House, the Capitol, the Statue of Liberty and many other unique places in the United States.

c. In virtually every public opinion poll, either in print or on the Internet, the public has shown support for rebuilding the Twin Towers by a significant majority.

d. Rebuilding the Twin Towers will heal the psychological wounds of many who were touched by the September 11 attacks.

2. The Twin Towers will reclaim over 10,000,000 square feet of column-free office space.

3. The Twin Towers will restore revenues from tourism; in fact revenues would increase.

4. The site plan offers a substantial, powerful, and appropriate memorial covering 6 acres, 17 when the individual floors of the 9/11 Memorial Museum are counted. The proposed memorial complex not only respects the original Tower footprints, but incorporates them into the memorial in substantive ways.

5. The shopping complex one level below grade, along with street-level retail, will create many jobs, stimulate the economy, and result in substantial sales-tax revenue.

http://www.triroc.com/wtc/

[Divameow77]

42. I'm surprised construction hasn't already started.

I like the idea of NY getting it's skyline back, and having a memorial for the victims, but I'm not sure how I would feel going into the buildings? Who would honestly want to have their office on one of the upper levels?