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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:09 PM
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I hope everyone saw McCain
on with Russert this morning, especially those Dems, many here on DU, that have been conned into thinking of him as moderate, a maverick,
etc.
I regular guy we could support, hardly!
His "Bush better qualified than Kerry', his can't "cut and run" and his little giggling fit over the admin guy that edited (changed) reports in favor of the oil companies then quit and went to work for them. Tee Hee Hee, "should have waited a month or so".
McCain is a sell-out, and a Republican throughout, that is now trying to say things to position himself for 2008.
We can't allow ourselves to be fooled because of his war record and imprisonment. That was then, this is now. Remember that Ted Bundy was a Boy Scout before he became a serial killer. People change, and once honorable people can become much the opposite.
I can't look at McCain without conjuring up the image of him humping Bush's leg during the campaign.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:12 PM
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1. I saw him this morning, never vote him will I, no regular guy there
not Democratic enough for me by far.

:kick:
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:12 PM
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2. McCain is a whore.
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 04:02 PM by charlyvi
He kissed shrub's ass after shrub trashed his family in South Carolina 2000. I have no respect for him. He is no man to me.

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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:16 PM
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6. I find this photo of the happy couple quite enlightening
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:18 PM
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8. Jeebus.....Get a room!
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:23 PM
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15. Your photo has the legs cut off
must have been too intimate a moment to share now. That is the leg humping one.
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Gay Green Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:24 PM
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16. What the f*ck IS it about Republican men...
...that they go homo for *?

:eyes: :wtf: :puke:
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:55 PM
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31. That photo finally did me in
when I first saw it last year for considering McCain a moderate independent. You cannot suck up any more than that.

McCain gets smeared by Rove in SC and then sucks up to opponent who libeled him like that.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:22 PM
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13. they promised him the 2008 presidency.
if he toed the company line, they would back him. that was my first impression after seeing him at the repug convention. of course, he has to take jeb with him.

we ARE talking dynasty here. the good news is that the next generation of bushes cannot hide their illegal acts because they have already been outed.

ellen fl
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:32 PM
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19. Yep.
But I still hold no respect for a man who would sell out his family's integrity to get a job--even if it's the presidency. He's a whore. No, that gives whore's a bad name--he's an unethical whore.



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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:18 PM
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34. Yep
He has to prove himself and his loyalty to the PNAC group. I bet you his VP and cabinet will be people connected to the PNAC group as well if not directly involved.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:16 PM
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33. Same here
I never got why McCain decided to whore around for Bush last year after waht Bush did to his family. Why didn't he stick up and fight for his family more? I betcha he had "gag" order not to do so so Bush could win the primary. :shrug: But yes McCain is a whore.
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:13 PM
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3. I use to hold McCain in a different light years ago
But since he's became Bush*s lapdog. I only hold respect for him now for his service and what he endured, nothing else.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:19 PM
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9. I respect his service and the
sacrifice he made for his country but I believe he left all his honor in the Hanoi Hilton. I hope his father and grandfather are spinning in their graves because of him helping Dubya in his election effort.
If McCain should get the Repub nomination, the Dems commercials should show McCain's embrace of Bush with the message. "What Bush's minions said of this man must have been true, otherwise how could he do this".
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:20 PM
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11. I remember during the SC primary...
The shrubbies tried to turn his service against him--he had a trigger-haired temper due to his POW years. Pathetic. And now he's kissing their ass.

:puke:

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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:44 PM
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24. Exactly
Its like they ripped out his spine, now he gladly laps at whatever gets thrown off the table to him.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:24 PM
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29. Side Question- where can i get a large version of that Cash pic?
would love to have it as a desktop photo!
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:14 PM
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4. I never saw the initial appeal of this fifth of the Keating Five anyway.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:47 PM
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25. No one seems to remember
the Lincoln Savings and Loan. But there was hardly a mention of Silverado S&L in the last two presidential campaigns either.
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dobegrrrl Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:14 PM
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5. I can't stand that smarmy little twerp. Anyone that would say
anything good about W after what he did to McCain in SC is just another party hack -- he must be afraid of him too.
Did anyone hear the terrible rumor that McCain may team up with jeb?
YUGGGGGGHHHHHHH. This country can not survive another 4 years of those crooked idiots and their henchmen and thugs. :argh:
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:28 PM
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30. not a bright move
I think it's general consensus between both democrats and most republicans that Jeb is a fool. Although, republicans seem to warm up to morons, and he does posess a nice combo of stupid and arrogance (great trait for starting wars).

I have a feeling that by 08' republicans will not want anything to do with the Bush family, they are going to go moderate to compete with Hillary. They will go ape shit crazy if she becomes president, their hate still runs deep (not sure why since Hillary seems to be borderline republican herself).
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:14 PM
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42. Welcome to DU, and au contraire, Jeb is the smart one.
n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:18 PM
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7. Did Russert ask how McCain concluded CIA analysts at fault for bad intel
and somehow missed that Bush's White House was FIXING the intel as CIA analysts have complained about and reported since Oct 2002?

McCain COVERED UP FOR BUSH and blamed the guys telling the truth.

McCain became a traitor to the truthtellers and to the American people in an effort to cover up for the Bush Liars.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:19 PM
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10. Casper gives me the creeps -can't stand the turn coat!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:20 PM
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12. I've lost all respect for McCain and I actually voted for him once
in the New Hampshire primary. The thought of him cozying up to Bush after South Carolina is sickening. I don't mind so much he toes the party line, but be honest about it. He shouldn't try to lure Democrats with a bait and switch routine.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:23 PM
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35. That's what he's trying to do
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 05:24 PM by FreedomAngel82
He's trying to win moderate/conservative democrats and independents for his presidency in 2008. That's why he was a key player in the "compromise" with the democrats over the filibuster. I think he'll probably be the nominee since he's proven to be a Bush whore and I could picture Jeb being his VP since Jeb is apart of PNAC. Someone, if not more then one, from the PNAC group will be apart of his administration to keep the plans going a long. I personally feel that Bush and his group don't really like McCain but they will be going to anybody who can continue their sick plans and McCain wants to be president and has proven himself to be loyal to the PNAC plans thus why he is whoring for them on all the talk shows. He knows the tide is sifting and people don't care for really super religious politicians much now days after the Terri Schavio fiasco so he's trying to label himself as a moderate who can work with party crossovers.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:22 PM
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14. McCain is a dog that laps up the puddles of bush's piss.
I'm not even going to mention what McCain eats.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:26 PM
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17. Here he is. yucking it up with timster....
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:35 PM
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20. Apparently finding it difficult to control
his mirth over the "revolving door" policy of the government in general, and this administration in particular. Can never remember for sure whether Will Rogers or Mark Twain said "we have the best government money can buy" but there is no doubt of the truth of the quote.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:31 PM
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18. McCain has a loose hinge. Wouldn't take much to find out
who he has seen, what meds he has taken to keep his mind straight. This guy is too old for the Presidency.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:36 PM
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21. Re McCain: Screw him.
n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:36 PM
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22. I would have said McCain had a chance with Independents and...
moderate Dems and Repubs until he began his lovefest with Bush. That has destroyed any chance he might have had to be elected president, imo...
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:41 PM
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23. Hope you're right ,Kentuck
but I would feel better had I not read so many comments on the DU praising the guy. Hopefully they have seen the light, as I've not seen many lately, but then I ain't here every day, all day.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:00 PM
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26. the little things tell me who a person is. the chelsey
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 04:01 PM by seabeyond
joke this man made about the reason she is so ugly is janet reno is her father, at a gathering of fellow pigs, and the group laughs, tells me who he is.

bush being asked, what do you and father talk about when not politics, and his reply, pussy.....told mewho that man is.

i dont need anymore to know what a pig he is. either of them
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:27 PM
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36. Disgusting
Seems as if either McCain truly 100% is one of them and just puts on a public act (my guess) or he's trying to fit in with them. But yes what they say in private that you pick up (and sometimes not so private) is how you can tell.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:10 PM
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27. How sickening. McCain saying that
bush* was better qualified for the presidency than John Kerry because of how he handled the war on terror. McCain actually said that that was why he campaigned for bush* and he is proud of him as pResident.

:puke: :eyes: :puke:
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 04:15 PM
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28. As others have said,
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 04:16 PM by deadparrot
I respect him for what he had to endure during his service. That is an experience I wouldn't wish on anyone, and in that area, he has my utmost respect.

However, after actively campaigning for ** twice after what he said about McCain's child is pretty sick, IMHO. Add that to his comments about Chelsea Clinton, and ugh. You don't mess with kids. You just don't. They didn't have any choice in their parents or their parents' actions. I held the same standard for the ** girls until they became paid campaign workers for daddy last year.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:14 PM
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32. McCain is a fraud.
John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.Here's what the AP's investigation found:McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary. The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm




When the talk about J. Kerry asking this hypocrite to be the VP on the ticket came up I was vehemtly opposed to it. It seem ludricous to me. McCain is a opportunistic hack and has always been one.



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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:31 PM
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37. Yep
I couldn't believe that either but then again I do understand because Kerry thought that McCain was truly his friend. :( How bad I feel for Kerry. I know how it feels to think someone really is your friend but then they stab you in the back. I've heard reports from other DU members that Kerry isn't talking to McCain so much now days and is pissed at him. I sure as hell would be if this guy was supposed to be a friend! :mad: And he broke his own law! Disgusting. I think that's why he's going on all these networks. He gains a lot by it. He gains some cash and he also gains Bush's support. Whoever is the nominee for them in 2008 they will have to have Bush's support both in the primaries and the general election for republicans to vote for him. I remember with the "compromise" over the filibuster a lot of the freepers were angry with him. That was for the conservative/moderate democrats and independents to show what a good guy he is (heh!)and now he's back to whoring for the republicans and Bush.
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charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:35 PM
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39. Did he say something about Chelsea?
I haven't heard. What was it?

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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 06:28 PM
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41.  "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?"
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 06:42 PM by deadparrot
"Because her father is Janet Reno."

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

:puke:

He later apologized, but I still find it sick.
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:33 PM
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38. I want to thank you all
for your responses and I was pleased that there were no posts defending this Repub. Hopefully those Dems enamored of McCain here
and elsewhere have seen the light and know him now for what he is, not what they wish he was.
I have to leave now (there is a Vette I'm watching on e-Bay) but again want to thank all you posters.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 05:39 PM
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40. I suspect it will be...
McCain and Jeb Bush for '08. The fix is probably in.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:37 PM
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43. Did he actually say Bush was more qualified than Kerry
on todays show? I didn't watch it. I find I shout at the screen every time I watch one of those programs, especially when a Republican is on. If he did make that comparison today, he is really full of Bush sh*t.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 08:50 PM
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44. If there's any politician that's truly jumped the shark,
it's John McCain.
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