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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:00 PM
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All marriage is unconstitutional
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~75~1641039,00.html

The debate about the definition of marriage is based on the states' long-standing power to license, conduct and regulate marriages. We know that power has always been presumed constitutional. But that may have ended 32 years ago without notice.

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But decades later, in Loving vs. Virginia (1967), the Supreme Court held that a Virginia law barring interracial marriage was unconstitutional.


:bounce::bounce::bounce:

We can all live in sin!!
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:01 PM
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1. Marriage is an institution
...and I have been a committed inmate in that institution for 29 years!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:05 PM
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4. Me too, but for only 25 years
Am I living in sin???

Come, we go look.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:03 PM
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2. Just think if talk radio had been big 32 years ago...
"Allowing interracial marriage will harm the institution of marriage blah blah blah"
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:04 PM
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3. They Had a Form of Talk Radio 32 Years Ago
It was called KKK and John Birch Society meetings.

:-)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:08 PM
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5. They should come Hawaii. Interacial marriages occur more frequently
than anything else.

I got 3 blood lines, my wife 6. Many others have 6 or more. Its alright, we will survive, our kids look great.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:09 PM
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6. Marriage is a legal contract
For that reason, it would be difficult to get the state out of marriage. I suppose that you could have a marriage type contract that could be made between any two adults. Individual religions have always had different requirements for marriage, however, and may refuse to marry anyone.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-24-03 05:56 PM
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7. I suppose...
you could have a marriage contract enforcable in state courts, similar to prenup agreements. And, it would be the only contract recognized by the state for such things as benefits, survivors rights, etc.

Then should anyone want to, they could get married in the religious rite of their choice, but just being married by a clergy would not automatically be recognized by the state.

Confusion would reign supreme, but fat chance of it happening anyway.

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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 12:19 AM
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8. Also my take on it n/t
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 12:28 AM
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9. Well, if I had my way,
there wouldn't be any marriage. Families would be matriarchal with children living with their birth mother and grandmother and their brothers and uncles. Children would carry their mother's surname. There are societies that still do this successfully.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 12:44 AM
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12. If I had my way
Marriage would be an alternative lifestyle.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 12:41 AM
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10. In Latin American countries there is a distinction between
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 12:42 AM by SharonAnn
the civil union or marriage and the religious ceremony and institution of marriage.

We're going to Chile at the end of October for our niece's wedding. The civil ceremony will be performed on Friday, October 24th. The religious ceremony will be on Sunday, October 26th.

The only legal ceremony is the civil union.

Why can't we do that here? The civil union is what everyone could get. The only legal ceremony is the civil union. The religious ceremony is up to the religion.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 12:48 AM
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13. Sounds like a sensible way to do things.
We could do it here it, except I can imagine all the churches hollering about "what it could lead to".
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 12:44 AM
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11. Works for me. (NT)
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