Rush was claiming that Plame hadn't

[JohnnyBoots]

been active in nine years, any basis in fact. He sounded scared in an angry way. How seriously does your average American take this guy? Must need pain pills to carry around an ego that big.

[w13rd0]

1. Rush lies habitually...

...and it's sad. He just pulls shit out of his ass, and his mealy minded mouth-breathing dittoheads chew on his shit like it were the gospel. Problem is, if she wasn't active, why the investigation? Why did Bush say that the leak was a serious crime and the perp would be fired? Is Rush saying Bush was lying?

[KittyWampus]

13. Rush Isn't Pulling It Outta His Ass.He's Regurgitating RNC Talking Points

just a quibble. :)

[ihaveaquestion]

20. Don't you mean "Rush lies pathologically"

At this point, I don't think he's even able to tell the truth. No wonder he can't stay married......

:eyes:

[LeftNYC]

2. Donovan McNabb

I'm not an Eagles fan (GO JETS!), but wasnt it great to see McNabb leading them to the SuperBowl last year. I could see big Rush with potato chips all over his lap and face watching the SuperBowl clutching his pills in the other hand. When New England scored, he probably popped a pill and garbled..."see I told you so", all the while spewing chips from his mouth,

[JohnnyBoots]

6. Amen, I am an Eagles fan and I was really hoping

when Rush said all that stuff that one Don's fellow Eagles would have slipped him copy of "Rush Limbaugh is a Big, Fat Idiot" just for laughs. Herm Edwards is an ex Eagle so I root for the Jets if they are on.

[bushisanidiot]

3. She was U-N-D-E-R-C-O-V-E-R. why would she make it known what she

was doing, when and where she was doing it?

that boilass draft dodger has no clue what he's talking about.

He should SHUT THE HELL UP AND SIT THE HELL DOWN!

[Canuckistanian]

4. Doesn't matter anyways

It doesn't matter if she wasn't active for 50 years.

She was STILL a covert CIA operative.

The law is clear, Rush. There are no exemptions. Expose a covert operative and a federal crime has been committed.

[Kilroy003]

9. The law states that the operative must have been

undercover, outside of the country, within the last five years.

[JohnnyBoots]

15. was she?

[Kilroy003]

17. I dunno...

...Probably not if she was working at Langley.

[Canuckistanian]

19. Really? Do you know where to find the wording of the law?

[Kilroy003]

26. No. It was part of an article on the subject.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/12/politics/12cnd-rove.html?pagewanted=3&ei=5094&en=58863f7c28b3a331&hp&ex=1121227200&partner=homepage

[Kilroy003]

28. I think this is it. Though I haven't read any of it myself.

http://foi.missouri.edu/bushinfopolicies/protection.html

[Canuckistanian]

29. Thanks. I don't see any mention of a 5 year limitation, though.

[Just Me]

21. Citation, please.

:hi:

[Kilroy003]

27. Check out this article...

"A prosecutor seeking to establish a violation of the law has to establish an intentional disclosure by someone with authorized access to classified information. That person must know that the disclosure identifies a covert agent "and that the United States was taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States." A covert agent is defined as someone whose identity is classified and who has served outside the United States within the last five years."


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/12/politics/12cnd-rove.html?pagewanted=3&ei=5094&en=58863f7c28b3a331&hp&ex=1121227200&partner=homepage

[Chipper Chat]

5. And where does El-Rushbo get his information?

Could it be the Rove-Gannon pipeline?????
G*A*S*P

[The_Casual_Observer]

7. The rw taking points are dictating questions about Plame's value

as a "desk job" worker. They are all saying the same thing right now.

[LSK]

8. and 10million sheep now believe that.

[Old and In the Way]

10. His show should have a disclaimer.

"The views and comments made by Mr. Limbaugh are in accordance with the Bush Republican Party and should not be considered impartial or objective observations of a nuetral commentator."

Just in case anyone might think that Rush has no stake in this fight.

[Parche]

11. rush

Once CIA always CIA

They are now trying to discredit the victim here,
something they always do, to take the spotlight away.

[Quixote1818]

12. I need pain pills after I listen to him. nt

[mondo joe]

14. Doesn't matter. Even if so, people who worked with her were

still in the field and now at risk.

[ProfessorGAC]

16. And Fitzgerald Doesn't Know That?!?!?

This is so pathetic. Does this idiot really think that a big-time, hot track record prosecutor like Fitzgerald wouldn't know that there was no possibility of a crime committed? Fitzgerald would have been done with this investigation months and months ago if there had been no crime. He would have found that out in the first month, and then said "Investigation over. No criminal activity occurred."

The reason an expert like Fitzgerald didn't say that, is that he must know some crime took place. Even a simpleton like Rush should be able to figure that out. Well, maybe not.
The Professor

[plcdude]

18. he just makes things up

most of the time. Here is how he operates. He listens to what Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, or Moderates (which he lumps together) are saying about the administration and its ilk and immediately applies it to the "liberals". The Libs are desparate, single issue, same old playbook etc. type speech. He bounces each criticism back and it is laughable. I believe he is currently trying to blame the NY Times for the whole mess by speculating that J. Miller's contact was someone other than Rove. He is becoming more and more out of sync with reality and saying things that are sometimes just off the wall. I would guess he is doing his best to support * because he is going to need that pardon sometime in the future.

[AlCzervik]

22. And Rump Leakage would know this how? Oh yes he was an unpaid advisor to

Bush during the campaign.

[Quixote1818]

23. She may have been one of the most important NOCs the CIA had.

>>>According to additional sources interviewed by Wayne Madsen, Brewster Jennings was, in fact, a well-established CIA proprietary company, linked for many years to ARAMCO. The demise of Brewster Jennings was also guaranteed the moment Plame was outed.

It takes years for Non-Official Covers or NOCs, as they are known, to become really effective. Over time, they become gradually more trusted; they work their way into deeper information access from more sensitive sources. NOCs are generally regarded in the community as among the best and most valuable of all CIA operations officers and the agency goes to great lengths to protect them in what are frequently very risky missions.


By definition, Valerie Plame was an NOC. Yet unlike all other NOCs who fear exposure and torture or death from hostile governments and individual targets who have been judged threats to the United States, she got done in by her own President, whom we also judge to be a domestic enemy of the United States.

Moreover, as we will see below, Valerie Plame may have been one of the most important NOCs the CIA had in the current climate. Let's look at just how valuable she was.


http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060804_coup_detat.html

[insane_cratic_gal]

24. So by the same token he's saying

It only matters if she was on assignment in the middle of danger at the moment it was leaked?

Ok Rush is notorious for taking a piece of information and twisting it to show his side of an argument.

What if it had been a Dem who exposed Plame's identity? We know the answer to that. They'd be hung at sunrise weeks ago.

Or what if Rove outed a Seal on their present location? Would that be enough?

Lets be honest. We are talking about people who are Ok with Killing innocent Iraqis. Who are ok with US invading a Sovereign country based on LIES. They are ok with American soldiers acting like deadly Frat boys because the prisoners are fed a chicken dinner with pears. They are ok with BushINC being appointed president rather then elected. They are ok with degrading their rights as American civilians based on lies. They believe the entire media is Liberal.*cough bullshit* They've bought and sold the lies so many times, they no longer know the truth.

It's sad really.

[Just Me]

25. The CIA has already made a determination that a crime,...

,...may have been committed and referred it for investigation.

Rush doesn't know wtf he's talking about. He's just a blow-hard bastard.