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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:02 AM
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TREASONGATE: IT'S NOT JUST KARL ROVE
By Ted Rall
Tue Jul 12, 7:07 PM ET

NEW YORK--Since Karl Rove surfaced last week as the White House official who probably unmasked a covert CIA agent, new developments appear to confirm that the deputy chief of staff and chief Bush political strategist has committed treason:

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Karl Rove, on the other hand, has already been found out as a likely traitor to the United States. Now we must work backwards. Does his exposure help to explain some of the Administration's most baffling foreign policy blunders?

No matter how remote, we must now consider the possibility that Karl Rove may in the employ of, and/or receiving money from, a terrorist organization such as Al Qaeda. Alternatively, could he be in the employ of a hostile foreign government? If he betrayed a CIA agent, Rove is a traitor and therefore capable of anything. Only an exhaustive investigation of his and his associates' anti-American activities, up to and including those committed by George W. Bush, can resolve these questions.

Internal sabotage offers a tempting explanation for the fact that so much has gone wrong for the United States since 2001. After 9/11 Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan--which had financed the Taliban and trained the hijackers at its camps--but Bush shocked analysts by attacking Afghanistan and Iraq instead. Was Bush's refusal to search for bin Laden in his nation of residence the result of spectacular incompetence--or a continuing alliance with the same Islamists his father's presidency had armed and funded? Are we losing the wars against Afghanistan and Iraq because of Rumsfeld's stubborn insistence on understaffing the military? Or are our leaders intentionally dragging out combat to accomplish their masters' aims: increasing the popularity of radical Islam and the recruitment of terrorists? Even Bush's domestic policies, from tax cuts paid to the rich people least likely to stimulate the economy to his attack on Social Security, seem designed to undermine U.S. stability and prosperity. Was Bush crossing his fingers when he swore to preserve and defend the constitution?

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<http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ucru/20050712/cm_ucru/treasongateitsnotjustkarlrove>
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:04 AM
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1. Holy Crap
the T word.... I like the last line..

Rove, those who worked with him and anyone who protected him must go.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:06 AM
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2. quick, everyone dismiss rall because he uses hyperbole
he doesn't reach across the aisle!
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:30 AM
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11. Much as I hate Rove, I dismiss this article because
it is largely free association without any real evidence or careful argument. Tons of correlation but no real causality.

Sorry...
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:07 AM
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3. Holy crap! Wonderful!
I am amazed this is on Yahoo. I hope the idea spreads. We've known it all along; time for America to wake up and save itself.

:patriot:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:07 AM
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4. BEST ARTICLE EVER!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:16 AM
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5. I remember wondering about that at the time, thinking, "Pakistan!"
"Let's go get him!" And then they went to Afghanistan instead, where I could see reasons for it as being where most of Al Qaeda was at the time, but the President said he'd get OBL, so why the change?

Let's imagine, they did go to Pakistan and did get OBL, Al Qaeda would need a new leader and that would have been a chance to mitigate for a more moderate (yes, I know they aren't a government or anything, but channels could have put forward various kinds of leaders for the position, it would at least have confused them, thus reducing terrorism, while we made good deals with other nations for what to do about Al Qaeda. But NONE of that happened. Why?
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:20 AM
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6. ...dots...
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:22 AM
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7. The tide is turning .....
and the administration must all realize that Karl has become a ball and chain to them. Yet George W. Bush will insist on doing things his way! What goes round, comes round.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:27 AM
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10. I hope Bush clings to his security blanket.....
all the more chance of him being brought to the dock too.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:34 AM
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13. Exactly.
There is something in sports that applies to life: that your strength is also your weakness. That security blanket will bring insecurity.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:26 AM
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8. Turnabout is fair play
I doubt Rall really believes that some sheik is pulling Turd Blossom's strings. But since Team Red always accuses Team Blue of treasonable or seditious behavior, it behooves us to return the favor.

Uniter not divider, that's me :evilgrin:
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:32 AM
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12. I agree. This is the very same tactic that our
traitor in question uses with such great success. "Make 'em deny it!"
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:27 AM
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9. "Rove is a traitor and therefore capable of anything."
We need to take a real close look at the people that are protecting Rove. Maybe they have something to hide?

"Methinks the lady doth protest too much."

Rated and recommended.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:35 AM
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14. Here is some REALLY disturbing Treasonous shit on the VP..LINK>>
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x66773

was rove trying to stop Chaney from being revieled as a profiteer of WMD' for decades..??

Plames investigation team was about to discover Chaney was DIRTY !!!!

so they stopped it??

American JUDA..
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