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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:57 PM
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Christian Wire warns "Dems" not to repeat their religious "bigotry"
Dems Should Avoid Religious Discrimination and Bigotry Demonstrated in Past Hearings
During the confirmation of John Ashcroft for Attorney General, Senator Harry Reid stated, "I think we have a right to look at John Ashcroft's religion."

To: National Desk

Contact: Rev. Patrick Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition, 202-547-1735, 540-538-4741 cell

WASHINGTON, July 25 /Christian Wire Service/ -- The Christian Defense Coalition cautions Democratic leadership not to repeat religious discrimination against Judge Roberts during confirmation process.

It is our hope that Minority Leader Reid, or any other Senator, would not show that same kind of religious bigotry and discrimination toward Judge Roberts and say, "I think that we have a right to look at John Roberts religion."

The United States Constitution makes it abundantly clear that, "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the Untied States."

Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Christian Defense Coalition, states, "No citizen in America should be discriminated against because of their religious beliefs and faith. During the confirmation process of John Ashcroft for Attorney General, Minority Leader Harry Reid made the extraordinarily troubling statement that '...we have a right to look at John Ashcroft's religion.' This statement sadly reminds us that religious bigotry still exists in America and hearkens back to the dark days of political witch-hunts and racial discrimination. It is our prayer that during the confirmation process of Judge Roberts the Democratic leadership will not engage in this kind of discrimination or religious bigotry and give Mr. Roberts and fair and dignified hearing."

For more information or interviews call: Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney at 202.547.1735 Cell: 540.538.4741

http://www.earnedmedia.org/cdc0725.htm
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:58 PM
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1. They are correct, let's leave the bigotry to the repubs.
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 02:59 PM
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2. Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney Can Lick My Sweaty Atheist Nuts!
Thankfully No Graphic Here!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:01 PM
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3. That's a really stupid statement
And at any rate, where religion intersects policy, it is only appropriate to ask questions of anybody.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:02 PM
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4. "No citizen in America should be discriminated against because of ...
...their religious beliefs and faith." Except for the Muslims of course.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:04 PM
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6. Or the pagans or atheists
Who according to these folks should lose their jobs and custody of their children for their beliefs.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:06 PM
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10. Didn't Ya Hear? Atheists Aren't Real American Citizens.
So says Poppy.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:08 PM
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11. EXACT QUOTE:
'No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.' - George H.W. Bush, asshole

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.htm
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:08 PM
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12. Poppy is a damn hypocrite.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:18 PM
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19. And wicca isn't a religion, according to him
"I do not think witchcraft is a religion, and I do not think it is in any way appropriate for the U.S. military to promote it. "
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:03 PM
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5. If he makes judgements based on his religious beliefs...
of course the theocrats will argue that he doesn't, he should then be subject to a religious test...how can he properly be vetted otherwise?
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:04 PM
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7. I don't care about his religion.
I care about his record. Since he has basically NONE, only two years of judging, I say No Way. There are better qualified people; we need the MOST qualified people in the country on our supreme court, people with a record to stand behind.

I disgusts me that he was chosen precisely because he has no record, and because he passes the Religious Right litmus test.
:puke:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:05 PM
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8. Now let's review shall we
We can't have his work product
We can't ask him his personal opinion about anything
We can't address his religion.....


Why have a freaking hearing on this guy, he is a stealth candidate...
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:05 PM
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9. I'll agree when religious leaders stay out of politics
If these "christians" will stop using the power of the government to enforce their religious dogma on everyone else, then I will agree that religion is not relevant to selecting someone for political office (and SCOTUS is definitely political).
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:11 PM
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13. There was a great thread a few weeks ago...
which listed the clauses in State Constitutions which explicitly state that in order to hold office, one must believe in a higher power, and in some cases, must believe in God.

I'll see if I can find it.

Sid
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:33 PM
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22. Found it...
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 03:34 PM by SidDithers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3936352&mesg_id=3936352

With such beauties as Arkansas:
"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any court."

Maryland:
"...nor shall any person, otherwise competent, be deemed incompetent as a witness, or juror, on account of his religious belief; provided, he believes in the existence of God, and that under His dispensation such person will be held morally accountable for his acts, and be rewarded or punished therefore either in this world or in the world to come."

etc.

more here I think: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/StateConstitutions.htm

credit to Iwfern and DistressedAmerican for suppling the info on that thread.

If states can make religious beliefs a necessity as part of their constitution, then surely religion should be a fair avenue of questioning as part of the confirmation process for a Supreme Court justice.

Sid
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:11 PM
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14. the Untied States?
Alright, who untied the states? Is this a secessionist movement?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:13 PM
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16. They've been untied since 2000! Good catch! nt
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:11 PM
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15. Rev. Patrick Mahoney can kiss my ass
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:16 PM
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17. And NO citizen should be discriminated against by a zealot SCOTUS
I think we can turn that argument back on them.
Any judge who answers to personal ideology over the law can not
be trusted to uphold or practice the law in a just manner.
BHN
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:17 PM
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18. This Dem urges the Fristians to stop thier bigotry against Democrats
Wasn't it in act of bigotry when Chan Chandler kicked the Democrats out of the Baptist Church awhile Back? Isn't bigotry for Pope Benedict to deny communion to catholics who vote for pro choice communion? Isn't it bigotry not to allow gay marriage? Isn't it bigotry to keep me in this damn wheel chair because I have parkinson's and want stem cell research? Well I guess I am not good enough to pray to your god now is that it? All's I got to say is woe be he who seperates the flock.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:28 PM
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20. This is like that "Don't spit on the troops" bullshit
No one is spitting on the troops. No one wants to spit on the troops. But if the right cautions us against it enough, the idea that we spit on the troops takes root.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:30 PM
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21. Don't discriminate against us because we want to discriminate against you.
That's what they mean.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 05:49 PM
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24. Precisely. nt
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:41 PM
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23. Political witch hunts and discrimination, Rev. Mahoney?
Well, you would know all about them, wouldn't you? You have a lot of experience politically hunting and discriminating against gays, don'tcha?

This is what happens when you insist on religion in the public square, Reverend. If you keep pushing to make this an official "Christian Nation", you had best get used to having people hate you and people who want what you want.

I am a Christian, and the only ones discriminating against me are fellow Christians like you, because I don't believe everything you do, and I don't vote the way you want me to.

Kindly don't pretend that you speak for me, because you DON'T!
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