Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

How long before Fitzgerald is "Saturday Night Massacred"?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Deere_John Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:22 PM
Original message
How long before Fitzgerald is "Saturday Night Massacred"?
Seems pretty clear to me that we're close to the tipping point, where allowing Fitzgerald to continue his investigation will cause Bush more political damage than firing him.

Then what?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
1. Gonzales would have to fire him
i'm sure they're weighing all this right now. it won't look good if they fire him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:25 PM
Response to Reply #1
4. that's true.....
after all, they hired him, they allowed him to build a case for 2 yrs, if they fire him now it will make them look like the guilty rats they are!!

And the last thing they want to do is look guilty.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:47 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. I think Bush is too smart for an out-and-out firing...
He'll call Fitzgerald into the Oval Office, note that he was 15 minutes late getting to work a couple of times, then give him the ol' "You're Not Growing in Your Job" spiel. This will be leaked to the Corporate Media who'll report that Fitzgerald has a bad attitude with regard to his employment. It will take only a couple of weeks before Bush will fire him and the American people will respond with, "Bush HAD to fire him. He was chronically late for work and wasn't growing in his job!"

From someone who's been down that road...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. Now there's a post title I never thought I'd see!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. Plus, he never really put enough pieces of flair on his uniform... nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. LOL!
All Office Space references are welcome.

BTW, I hear that Rove likes suspenders on his boy Jeff. I also heard that they play "Pin the tail on the elephant".

It's unsubstantiated, but possible me thinks.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. "Pin the tail on the elephant".
Trying hard not to form mental image... trying hard not to form mental image... AUGHHH! My mind's eye! The horror... the horror...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. I'm sure he'd resign in protest first
:sarcasm:

:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #1
17. His term of appointment ends this year - no need to fire - just extend
the term of the Grand Jury - as is being proposed today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:23 PM
Response to Original message
2. It's already way past that point.
That point was reached the moment first Rove stories started leaking a few weeks ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:25 PM
Response to Original message
3. If Fitzgerald gets fired
then that will be the end of this administration, I believe. The American people are only going to put up with so much, and there are a lot of people who still remember Watergate, and the first "Saturday Night Massacre".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:26 PM
Response to Original message
5. How long before he is "Paul Wellstoned"?
It's called the BFEE for a reason.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:27 PM
Response to Original message
7. Too late
If W orders Gonzales to fire him the resulting firestorm will outweigh anything that happened in the original Saturday Night Massacre. They'll try to smear Fitzgerald first, but I can't see anything that would stick, plus it would be so transparent, who other than the goose-steppers would believe it to be anything but a timed smear to get the SP off their asses?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:32 PM
Response to Original message
8. My biggest fear
Is that Fitzgerald is bought off. Investigation over. Democrats with egg on face. Heads hung in shame as Fitzgerald announces the investigation over with no indictments forthcoming.

I can only imagine the pressure he must be facing right now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. I am sure bush has dug through his every personal and financial record
Looking for dirt to blackmail him with. It's the bush family way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:43 PM
Response to Original message
10. Remember, Fitzgerald has been before several judges and they have ..
... seen his confidential materials and have done every thing they can to advance his investigation because they understand the 'national security' implications of what he has revealed to them.

None of that is going away.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:45 PM
Response to Original message
11. It depends upon how they read the tea leaves
If they believe they can get away with it without any backlash, and keep the Repugs in congress in their hip pocket, they'll do it if they think indictments are coming.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:55 PM
Response to Original message
13. What if he's just given a back seat for the trial, after the indictments?
I could forsee Bush appointing a supposedly "senior" attorney to take charge of the prosecution at trial as 1st chair, giving Fitzgerald a 2nd-chair role at trial. Fitzgerald is already accompanied by three Deputy Special Counsel attorneys on his legal team. I could then see that senior attorney giving Rove or whoever is indicted a plea bargain deal with little or no actual jail time and avoid having them testify at trial with skeletons coming out of closets. Bush would look good for having found someone guilty but Rove would avoid prison. Some of the Iran Contra scum surprisingly ended up having little jail time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 03:56 PM
Response to Original message
14. I wonder if Bush will wait for indictments and then just pardon everyone
The WH and Repubs are very busy trying to trivialize and justify the leaks and downplay the seriousness of the whole matter. Sen. Roberts' Senate hearings on CIA cover that were just announced are probably a way to get "official" conclusions along those lines to minimize any flak over Bush either firing Fitzgerald or pardoning Rove and Libby.

But Americans are well aware of how Martha Stewart served time for lying to the feds about her stock trade so surely there would be some serious political fallout against Bush if Rove and Libby face no repercussions for leaking and lying in a case where national security issues are involved.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 07:00 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC