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romantico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:40 PM
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need help defending Clinton from Freeper!
Isn't there a list of GOP'ers who cheated on their wives? Also, whats this article 1308 Clinton is blamed for by Freepers?

Wasn't it known that Clinton couldn't inhale for some reason?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:44 PM
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1. Newt and Hyde BOTH cheated
and nobody inhales the first time they smoke weed. CLinton's problem with THAT should've been to just say yeah I tried it in college, didn't care for it, just like 100,000 college students do every WEEK

1308? No idea...


but they are gonna start pulliing out some pretty desperate crap now, I suspect, to make Clinton seem like Satan compared to their ape
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:45 PM
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18. Clinton is not running for President, why are freepers salavating?
President Clinton is a very interesting person, so I can see the Freepers frustration with this yellow bellied administration. They are so dull.
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Piper3069 Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 11:01 PM
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22. What is/are freepers?
Forgive me if I should know, but am new here.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:47 PM
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2. He's allergic to smoke
BTW, is that all these people can come up with? We have a deadly situation in Iraq, lies out the wazoo from this WH and a record budget deficit, and freepers are still hung up on "I didn't inhale" and Clinton's sex life?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:47 PM
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3. why?
Clinton isn't even in office anymore, steer it away from him.

Really, they can't be saved, cut them off like a hemorraging leg I say.
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romantico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:49 PM
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5. I kinda got suckered into it
Go over to abovetopsecret.com message boards.Under the people section these rabid Freepers are exploding because I WON'T back down.Yeah, I know its no use but they're getting very upset!They can't argue w/the facts & links I have already provided,so they're ignoring the evidence & focusing on this other crap.Its actually pretty fun!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:49 PM
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6. lol, even better, he's gone, get over it :-)
ask them why they cannot address the issues facing us here in 2003, rather than argue over what Bill did in college while there on one of the most prestigious scholarships in the world :-)
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:18 PM
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14. Remember when Regan's tag line was "There You Go..."
we need to borrow that when they throw out that old Clinton shit.

Or at least we need a concise meme to deflect the issue. Let's come up with something.

I'll borrow from Regan until I think of something better.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:48 PM
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4. Dan Burton, Bob Livingston, Tim Hutchinson,
Edited on Mon Jul-14-03 07:54 PM by Kerryfan
along with the formentioned Newt and Henry Hyde are just the ones that have gotten caught.


I could add someone from WI, a former Gov, but I wouldn't want to hurt his wife because she is a wonderful person.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:52 PM
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8. Don't forget ol' Strom!
According to a colleague, "When he dies, they'll have to beat his pecker down with a baseball bat in order to close the coffin lid!"
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:22 PM
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15. Well, did they?
:evilgrin:
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:49 PM
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19. Not an image I want in my head. . .
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RememberJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 07:51 PM
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7. Rightwing scumbags
"We can't forgive what occurred between the President and Lewinsky." Said Ken Calvert (R-California) in 1998. Calvert, a Christian Coalition ally, was caught by police in 1993 receiving oral sex from a prostitute. His ex-wife also sued him for failure to pay alimony.
What immediately jumps out at me about this report is the money factor. Money was being exchange – which makes both instances business deals and not moral issues. Despite the illegality of both.

Matthew Glavin, President of the Conservative Legal Foundation (which attempted to destroy Clinton by first bringing up his sexual conduct), was arrested in Atlanta, GA in 2000. He was arrested for masturbating in front of an undercover male police officer, and trying to fondle him. He’s also plead no contest to a similar charge
in 1996.

Former Green Bay Packers football player and GOP conservative activist Mark Chmura once refused to meet with President Clinton, saying Clinton "didn't have the moral authority to be President." Chmura was arrested for raping a 17-year old girl.

Conservative Christian leader Randall Terry is most noted for his
leadership of the anti-choice organization "Operation Rescue," and the traditional marriage Christian group "Loyal Opposition." This pillar of the community recently left his wife after allegations of extramarital affairs with several women, both married! Daniel J. Little, Terry’s pastor at Landmark Church in Binghamton, NY, is said to be "shocked and bewildered" at Terry's actions.

Bob Barr was the principal sponsor of the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. He attained this “lofty” designation despite being married three times and licking whipped cream off of two women’s breasts at a party in 1993.

Dan Burton never kept in contact with his illegitimate child and refused to give that child his last name. Helen Chenoweth, one of first to condemn Clinton for his affair, admitted to having one herself.


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:00 PM
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9. The chinese stuff
Article 1308 is about selling designs to foreign countries. This must be that Chinese missile thingie that I honestly never totally understood. In my mind, U.S. corporations wanted China to have the ability to launch satellites and so certain technologies were given/sold to China in order to help launch satellites. It seems like it was pushed by alot of people, I don't remember all the details.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:05 PM
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12. "The Chinese Stuff"
the Sattelite deal was actually a transaction begun by Bush 1 ; Clinton signed off after heavy lobbying from the Reps.


As to the nuclear technology, also part of a Bush 1 deal where Clinton saw that what was being sold by then was available via the internet.

The freepers always tried to blow this up into a Treason thing, and it didn't fly because it was squashed by BFEE
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:28 PM
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16. I was thinking that
But couldn't remember for certain. Just like the stand against Milosovic was also implemented by Bush 1. And of course Somalia. We might want to make a list of things done by Clinton because of Bush that Clinton didn't blame Bush for.
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TexasEditor Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:00 PM
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10. Bill Clinton
was a successful and popular president, and the NeoConGOP'ers can't stand it. As for which GOP'ers cheated, Larry Flynt's probably got the whole list in his back pocket.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:05 PM
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11. This website has a list of Repugs who cheated!
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scrutineer Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:15 PM
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13. As does this one
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:40 PM
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17. Let the Freeper call Mike Malloy
He's on Bush's case tonight. Bush is such a damn scumbag. Impeachment time for a real crime. He's a murderer.
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 08:51 PM
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20. I think
Henry Hyde,
Bob Livingstone
Dan Burton

are the three I remember
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aneerkoinos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-03 10:51 PM
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21. Stop defending that lying piece of shit
sell the freeper a true democrat, Dean, Kucinich or other.

Stay honest, not a party (DNC) loyalist.
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